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Larry Allen writes:

Eric,

Some thoughts... triggered by this week's PWFM.

Re St Paul and Catholicism. Catholicism is a trip, you'll get no argument from me on that score. But, it contains confession, which is something of a mechanism of self-awareness and healing. Plus, there have been actual mystics in this religion, which one must respect.

Jesus is clearly what we now would call a gay or a bisexual man, though of course the context of his time, thought of such things rather differently than we do. I believe that a strong case could even be made that he was also something of the ultimate thresholder, in a spiritual form, and also a Tantric practitioner.

None of which would have been particularly unusual at the time because the social context into which Jesus was born, in the region in which he was born, was Hellenistic and Dionysian, not Judaic, as one might have been led to believe by St Paul etc. Michael Haag delineates this contextual framework of Jesus and his life very well in 'The Quest for Mary Magdalene'.

For another example, Ptolomy, the Alexandrian Astrologer, described male to male love within the cultural context of his time, as a part of his work on the Thema Mundi (Alexander Boxer in his recent book 'A Scheme of Heaven', explores this issue rather well),

But Ptolomy basically saw male love as a cultural phenomena and ascribed astrologically determined geography to 'gay' or 'bi', rather than any cultural or proscriptive opinion to the issues. Gay/Bi was a completely normal human situation to him, the technical astrological interest for him was centered on the geographical distribution.

So, we have the actual ancient opinion at 180 degrees of the modern opinion, which is a common perception if you look under the traditional academic version of history. Academics these days still love Emmanual Kant for crying out loud... enough said! They also use terms like 'The Knot of Christos' because they simply cannot understand the story, principally because they cannot understand the underlying reality, nevermind that some of the story is still intact and in place in the Bible. For example, the request by Jesus to bring a naked youth to him in the Garden of Gethsemane (Tantra!) and the male disciples complaining that Jesus was kissing the Magdalene more than them. (How bitchy!)

But other perspectives exist outside of modern academia, the brothering that thrives in the working class for example, 'Brothers before Others'. Furthermore, recent academic enquiry into the sexualities of the ancient cultures is rediscovering the full banquet of activity, and the sort of entheogen assisted pursuit of ecstasy, INCLUDING sexual or tantric ecstasy, which was invested into the Dionysian cults, and very likely, the early Christian church and its devotion to 'Agape' Love'. That other book, which you have from me, 'The Immortality Key' by Brian C. Muraresku, utterly demolishes our current perception of all these issues. It's brilliant!

If we then also recognise that Jesus is also said to have spoken Aramaic, that would make him what we would now call a Persian. Which would also make him an Arab, rather than a Jew.

In other recent correspondence on the BDSM issue, I mentioned the Arab saying that 'women are for family, but men are for love', which stream of thought and activity, harkens back to Ptolemy and his contexts and the true Hellenistic and Persian perspectives on such matters in the ancient world. Even Mohammad took male lovers, but he explained them to one of his wives as 'Angels'. Which I would argue, they probably WERE!

I would add that we have NOTHING of Jesus BY Jesus in the New Testament. It's mostly about Paul, who was a Jew, and stories about Jesus written down long after his death, in Greek if you don't mind, not the Aramaic which Jesus himself would have used to write his own story. So, when modern preachers say that they're going back to the original Greek, they're referring to Disneyland. The original story is long gone, it's been completely hijacked, only shreds remain in the published Bible.

All of which is a long-winded way of saying that your concept of bisexuality is historically completely accurate, but it's been buried under the facades of religious stricture, by religions whose own prophets were clearly either gay or bisexual. So perhaps some of that will get rolled back under Pluto in Aquarius and the books mentioned above are a first attempt in the process, I should think. The dead Jesus statues in the churches, to me, are symbols of what the institution killed in order to pursue its nefarious ends. But Jesus rose again didn't he, so it's about time we got with the program here, including the sexuality.

LGBTQ: The original roots of what became the Gay Rights movement was a very underground group called the Homophiles. They were principally white middle-class men, who were looking at the methods and morals of the ancient world as a sort of path to self-discovery. Back to Ptolomy et al..

Later came the Gay movement, which was originally about the determination to love who one wanted, in the way that one wanted. That morphed into the gay rights political movement which attracted a lot of attention from politically motivated Lesbians. There is a good book called 'The New Gay Liberation: Escaping the Fag end of Feminism' by Matthew Lye. It's a shocker!

By that stage, gay rights had become a business model, 'The Pink Dollar', and various forms of bracket creep came into play, especially once the business model expanded considerably due to the false crisis of AIDS. 'Inclusivity' increased the business model's reach further and the bracket creep got completely out of control, leading to today's mess where the legacy organisations and publications are about everything BUT male love. Today, these organisations are almost all headed up by straight career women, they are Pharma shills, and they have a large footprint within the government's social engineering agendas. Douglas Murray wrote about this process in his excellent book, 'The Madness of Crowds'.

Feminism... Oh God I won't live long enough to delve into THAT subject any further. Your old friend Janice Fiamengo has a great pair of books called 'Sons of Feminism' and 'Daughters of Feminism'. Horror story. What a disaster!

Digital... watch out for Sexual VR (Virtual Reality). Meta! Chaturbate in a virtual reality headset. Onlyfans in VR! Clean safe and soul-less. I was in a FB discussion with some 'Women are all Spirit' types and I asked about full IVF babies... the reply was that they are pure children because they were born without karma. Que? WHAT? Contrasting this there is the rise of False White Light theory, which is calling 'Bullshit' on some aspects of the badly aged New Age theory. An Enantiodromia is coming in that arena. Matrix theory - Tony Sayers and Ola Wolny are representatives on youtube.

Fetlife... Consent is now so devolved that it's become a complete limp out. It's so PC that actual lust and love has just gone out of the activities, leaving talk of a 'lifestyle'. The use of the term 'lifestyle' is just about the biggest lie ever told and it doesn't test backwards, meaning that nobody was ever accused of a Heterosexual Lifestyle. Way before Fetlife, there was something called Safe Sane and Consensual. That was something that emerged post the arrival of AIDS, from the gay Leather Community.

That history trail has been over-written and hijacked many times, but the invention of SSC did not come from the Pansexual Community, nor the Sex Worker Industry, as you may read in most commentary. SSC itself is a PC devolution of an earlier male-to-male code called CCC for Committed Compassionate and Consensual, which came out of the many streams of Homophile thinking and was sort of the 'gay' version of the type of male orientated thought stream which led to Robert Bly's 'Iron John' concept, though it emerged much earlier than Bly's work.

It was called Leather Faerie or Radical Faerie or just plain old Leatherman. You can find such issues in Geoff Mains' 'Urban Aboriginals' or 'Gay Spirit: Myth and Meaning' or 'Leather Folk' by Mark Thompson. I note with interest that these old books are now being bought in E-Book form by young people, so some seeking is certainly going on.

So, once there were lofty heights of thought and spirit, but 50 Shades of Grey and MeToo have combined to extinguish love, lust and spirit in Fetlife. It's become a set of children playing games. Once again, being socially acceptable = Death! So that movement could use a return to the robust sexual dynamic of the ancient world.

Egypt... Look up the Turin Papyrus. Egyptians were far more pansexual than you might think!

Anyway, IF there is an Enantiodromia coming, one would hope that these disparate threads of the actual human sexual history story get picked up again, and revisited, as a new Counter Culture to the digital moralism.

Regards,

Larry

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I'm so sad :( about Sane Progressive. I had wondered for a while whatever happened to her... and her important voice.

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GREAT program. Loved the first 47 minutes, commented on your separate blog entry about that part. Very interesting to hear the Jim Morrison segment. Yeah, people still believed in the possibility of an independent media entrepreneur being able to break in, media weren't quite as concentrated in 1971. Morrison should have been aware, however, of how Wenner sacked much of his staff when they did an issue without his approval (he was away) after Kent State, taking a much more radical stance than where he was at. He played a major role in herding the "counterculture" and its political side back into the Democratic Party in late '71 and '72, i eyewitnessed it.

And interesting segment re the lawyers.

Thanks.

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Ok, I would think MCMs audience would appreciate your ENTIRE program.

Do you agree ?

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I thought the longer one would offer greater content, good for listening to during the long weekend, on a number of topics.

You said a small note about mild disagreement on an issue with MCM & I didn't want he to be dismayed in anyway.

I can post my (unsent so far) post (to MCMs site) for your perusal, but it would be redundant on your site.

If you have a private address to pre-read, let me know.

I have NOT sent it yet.

Thanx.

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Eric,

I only listened to 40 minutes of long, initial version.

Was gonna send to MCM's site.

Which version would you suggest ?

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Only in ~40 minutes.

SUPERB !

Gonna take a time out to share it.

Thanx Mr. Coppolino.

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If you see this Eric, maybe you'd ask her this question:

I've never heard of a vaccine injury attorney exposing the virology fraud in order to expose the pharma companies. If it was shown and well-explained to a jury that the pharma companies have never proven the existence of any virus, and are fabricating the story via rigged lab methods and fraudulent claims about the results, wouldn't that massive fraud void all of their liability protection?

Why are there no attorneys doing this? It's the legal case of the millennia, and it's a slam dunk if it's done competently. I think any jury that really understood what's happened would be outraged that we'd all been conned so ruthlessly, and the pharma companies and their partners in government would be finished.

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"Battle cries & Champagne

Just-In-Time for Sunrise..."

~ Bowie

https://youtu.be/q2y9inP4CqE

"Pop The Corks"

~ Jon Rappoport

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Dearest Eric !,

YOU ARE THE Quintessence.

Poet-Warrior

WithIn

The Good Fight !

With Your LockerRoom

Filled-To-OverFlowing

Of 3-Ring Binders

Of Past Battles...

The Proven Fodder

Of Tasks Accomplished.

Past & Present,

& Still.

IN THE STILLNESS.

Always

Grateful...

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