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The only thing you can do better than a machine is to be a human being. Think about what that could mean for you – and then invest all your energy in it. –Dushan Wegner

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When I was younger,

so much younger than today

I never needed anybody's algo in anyway,

but now those days are gone, I'm not so self assured

now I've found I changed my mind, I have opened up the doors - - The new old Rutles copy band

Great subject. " Algorithms teach us to act like they do." Methinks the algorithms train one to think like the algorithm. How one acts is up to the individual. But yes, most people do not use discrimination in the conscious activity of acting. People are force fed the algo or style of 'thinking' because of the media control mechanisms. Media acting with 'one voice'. etc...

Also, imo it is a misnomer to call it the second word in the A.I. initials, intelligence, as it is just mapping, albeit very fast. Intelligence implies creativity and self awareness, not just mathematics and computations. So in this sense, the psyop of AI is already working on most of the population. People use the word intelligence in this context and accept it, without questioning it. How unintelligent.

As you present the concept that the "use of any digital devices" is related to AI. This leads to more data to increase the efficiency of the next algo in 'studying humans behaviour' in order to program the next unsuspecting human by the interface with media/internet/Mass media, and thereby a continually redefining spiral of human programming. Humans programming computers - A.I. - to reprogram humans. But as all computer programming occurs, until now or the recent past, a human programs and tweaks the code. So all this systemic operation is controlled, informed, or swayed, by the intentions of original human programmer.

BELOW is an excerpt from Wikipedia, all I did is that I typed in 'Newspeak george orwell' into my Brave browser = WOW - It's working as we speak. They be dumbing us down in such a short time.... Thanks a lot George - NOT ! - care of MI5/GCHQ. Seriously, if one never stops being skeptical, never stops thinking for oneself, and challenging oneself, then one doesn't lose that faculty of critical thinking. If one never had it though.... easier to reprogram I would guess.

Thought control

The intellectual purpose of Newspeak is to make all anti-Ingsoc thoughts "literally unthinkable" in terms of words. As constructed, Newspeak's vocabulary communicates the exact expression of sense and meaning that a member of the Party could wish to express, while excluding secondary denotations and connotations, eliminating the ways of indirect thinking that allow a word to have additional meanings. The linguistic simplification of Oldspeak into Newspeak was realised with neologisms, the elimination of ideologically undesirable words, and the elimination of the politically unorthodox meanings of words.[1]: 310 

The word free still existed in Newspeak, but only to communicate the absence of something, e.g. "The dog is free from lice" or "This field is free of weeds". The word could not denote free will, because intellectual freedom was no longer supposed to exist in Oceania. The limitations of Newspeak's vocabulary enabled the Party to effectively control the population's minds, by allowing the user only a very narrow range of spoken and written thought; hence, words such as: crimethink (thought crime), doublethink (accepting contradictory beliefs), and Ingsoc communicated only their surface meanings.[1]: 309–10 

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I saw a video sometime ago where John Searle and Luciano Floridi talk about AI and there's something there I never see anywhere, which is Searle's Chinese Room Argument. The basic argument is that AI doesn't have semantics, but only syntax, therefore, as Eric says, it's just a machine that shuffles data like any other device. John says that he pays the guys at (can't remember which university) to find out where consciousness is and they can't find it. (They're probably looking in the wrong place, fortunately). But AI will never be conscious (I think what's called "strong AI"), only very good at looking like it is, at the same rate human intelligence drops to the level of a brick, so anything will indeed look conscious and smarter. Link for the Searle-Floridi talks here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6o_7HeowY8

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Eric, Your best statement: "We are becoming like these algorithms more than they are becoming like us." Yes. Exactly. Very well stated.

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It is ever true and depressing that most people look to anyone or anything else to "tell" them what they feel and think. A I is like any of the hype around so-called "progress" and its "inevitability"... The only way it is "inevitable is if we let it run roughshod over us. Otherwise it's exaggerated BS. Anyone remember Alvin Toffler's Future Shock? I read that in middle school and often recalled it as the years went by and none of his predictions came to pass. I understood fairly soon into the game that most hyped predictions of the future are either CIA confections or somebody's fever dream.

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What's interesting to me is that the climate alarmists never cite the microwave effect of technology as a source of insect and bird population collapse... A collapse which we may ourselves eventually experience. Certainly, as you say, it is at least frying our psyches and degrading, if not utterly destroying our collective mental stability and spiritual well-being.

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Eric, You may wish to check out a recent podcast on Rune Soup, "Transhumanism, Technocracy and AI." Gordon is an esotericist who has a very interesting... and sane... attitude towards AI.

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Great show.

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I’ll have to watch that again. That’s really what’s motivating him?

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Jun 24, 2023·edited Jun 24, 2023

Interesting comparison to HAL. In the story, he murders his crew mates because he is guilt-ridden about not being able to tell them the truth about extraterrestrial life.

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FANTASTIC Eric !

The Titles, under (msn) are HILARIOUS !!!

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"AI states its first name isn't Andrew. Scientists rendered baffled. News at 11."

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The Joe Rogan episode was fake it is said. Was the Tucker Carlson episode (post Fox) also supposed to be fake, where he seemed to talk about real UFOs potentially being a thing?

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Thank you! Right on the money here.

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