ICC rejected Israel’s challenges to its jurisdiction, and also issued a warrant for a top Hamas official. Its chief prosecutor had sought the arrests for war crimes in Gaza.
The press release for the Mohammed Deif warrant was tweeted at 11:45 UK time & the Netanyahu & Gallant one was a minute later. I believe that’s 06:45 & 06:46 New York time.
I think that would be a stretch. I would rather be funded by several large donors who understand the need and won't miss the money. I am a 501c3 so I can accept that kind of money without creating tax liability. It would be a lot simpler and easier for everyone, and cut the drama. I agree this book should happen and I am the only one who can write it. I estimate a total cost of about $100K over 18 months, which will include a couple of crack researchers. The whole thing needs another layer of investigation and fact checking.
You talked about problems dealing with your Jewish friends. Well, there are lots of people of Jewish background who are very active in the anti-Genocide movement, in fact often acting as key organizers of the demonstrations. And likewise in the entire history of the anti-Zionist apartheid movement.
Excellent point about how hope can be a hindrance to doing anything, because instead of doing something lots of people will just put forth "hope" that things will change.
And an ominous note about how the chart shows the possibility that things could go in totally unexpected directions because of this.
Well, there are lots of people of Jewish background who are using the G word and have no problems with Bibi's indictment. I know that you know one really well. :-) Just saying that people of Jewish background are not remotely of one opinion on this, not even those who are friends of yours.
The International Court of Justice is a civil litigation court between nations; individuals are not tried and the court only has jurisdiction to hear international disputes between governments.
That would have been the court to go to much closer to the beginning of the crisis. But in my perspective, this is a made-up situation, and Israel's responses was disproportionate and intended as genocide of the Palestinians, which has been going on in that region since at least the 1940s. Once a region is destabilized, and destroyed, and there is open war, it's nearly impossible to stop. That would take a massive international effort but moreover the political will to do so.
As a Quaker, I oppose all wars at all times. There has never been a "justified" war. Time after time, false flags are used to start them. My analysis of this is not political. It is religious. So yes I would call for a cease fire and immediate humanitarian intervention at all costs.
Your commentary on the ICC arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant raises significant questions. I'd like to understand your perspective on the broader implications and practical solutions to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Given your critique, what steps do you suggest Israel take moving forward? Should they declare a ceasefire, withdraw from Gaza, and risk allowing Hamas to regroup? If not, what alternative actions do you propose?
Do you believe a ceasefire is viable without addressing the risk of Hamas reconstituting itself and launching further attacks? What measures should accompany such a ceasefire to ensure both security and peace?
You mention the ICC’s decision as a symbolic gesture. Do you believe the ICC has a practical role in resolving this conflict, or is it primarily a moral statement?
You appear to imply dissatisfaction with the Israeli leadership. Do you see any credible Palestinian leaders or factions who could negotiate and sustain peace with Israel? If so, how can they gain influence over groups like Hamas?
What is your view on the role of international actors? Should the international community impose specific conditions or support particular factions to foster peace?
Your insights into these questions would clarify your position and help contextualize the broader implications of your commentary.
As a Quaker, I oppose all wars at all times. There has never been a "justified" war. Time after time, false flags are used to start them. My analysis of this is not political. It is religious. So yes I would call for a cease fire and immediate humanitarian intervention at all costs. Then the international community involved in this proxy war deal with the stability problem. The world has had many opportunities to establish a two-state solution and Israel and its sock puppet the United States has never cooperated with that, including during Gulf War 1, started when the United States "would never take yes for an answer" and "does not engage in Arab-Arab conflicts." It certainly did.
Mr. Coppolino: Thank you for sharing your perspective. I appreciate your principled stance as a Quaker and your opposition to all wars. However, I’d like to address some of the practical implications of your views and ask for further clarification:
Ceasefire and Stability: You advocate for a ceasefire and humanitarian intervention at all costs, but who do you envision leading and enforcing such efforts? How do you propose addressing the risk of Hamas using a ceasefire to rearm and reconstitute itself?
Two-State Solution: You mention that the world has had opportunities to establish a two-state solution, but that Israel and the United States have not cooperated. Do you see any path forward for a two-state solution given the current leadership in Gaza and the West Bank? If so, what specific actions should be taken?
Proxy War and Stability: You suggest that the international community should "deal with the stability problem." Could you specify what you believe this would entail? Do you trust the international community, given its history of failures in similar conflicts, to address such a complex and volatile situation effectively?
False Flags: You assert that wars are often started with false flags. Could you elaborate on how this applies to the current conflict and whether you believe such claims affect the feasibility of achieving peace?
I ask these questions not to challenge your principles but to better understand how your position addresses the realities on the ground.
None of this is on my reporting beat. I am not covering the details of the conflict nor is my opinion of on the specifics of any use. I would refer you to Smedely Butler's treatise, War is a Racket.
Thank you for your response and for the reference to War is a Racket. While I understand your perspective as a pacifist and respect your focus on the broader critique of war, the questions I raised were aimed at understanding how your stance translates into actionable steps, especially in the context of the Israel-Palestine conflict.
Without engaging with the specifics, it’s difficult to see how your position could contribute to a practical resolution of this or similar conflicts. Wars may indeed be unjustifiable in your view, but they are also real, with lives at stake and complex dynamics at play. For instance:
If the international community is tasked with enforcing stability, who would lead this effort, and how would they address the realities of groups like Hamas?
Can a two-state solution emerge without addressing the ideological and strategic impasses of both sides?
Your opinions might hold more value than you think in framing these questions, even if your focus is not on the specifics. Abstract principles are valuable, but engaging with the practical realities could provide a bridge between your moral framework and actionable solutions.
The Zionist state (where i was born, in the last months of the Mandate, and lived till 1958, yesterday was the anniversary of my family leaving, US-bound) has been carrying out genocide even before formal independence, one can easily argue ever since the early decades of the 20th Century. This didn't start on October 7, 2023,
Your comment seems to presuppose that Israel is acting in good faith, which they have never done. Also, the Palestinian /Israeli binary is not a contest between equals. Israel has always ensured that it has the upper hand , by its many and accreting moves to marginalized and disempower the Palestinians , particularly those trapped- yes trapped, in Gaza.
No .... it was Thanksgiving weekend, a few degrees in.
The paper did its job. There was no way they were retracting or publishing that bomb. This whole thing will be understood in hindsight. So it's there....
Senator Lindsey Graham has tweeted that the ICC should be permanently sanctioned. Others in Congress have chimed in. Biden has condemned the decision. Looks like the ICC may be the only entity to face actual material consequences.
The press release for the Mohammed Deif warrant was tweeted at 11:45 UK time & the Netanyahu & Gallant one was a minute later. I believe that’s 06:45 & 06:46 New York time.
thank you yeah looking for Hague time which is NY + 6
I meant to include the links to the tweets -
Deif - https://x.com/intlcrimcourt/status/1859563710966079611?s=61
Netanyahu & Gallant - https://x.com/intlcrimcourt/status/1859563977455366501?s=61
so it looks like that ICC tweet was at about 12:45 pm local time Hague
Satanists! Both of them and many others around them!
Listening to Prof Sachs' commentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILxOPAH1bVw
Excellent link.
Eric:
Have you considered some sort of GoFundMe setup in order to fund a hard-copy publication of your 'COVID Timeline'?
Seems like an invaluable resource to have on one's bookshelf and I would certainly make a contribution as would, I would hope, others as well.
I think that would be a stretch. I would rather be funded by several large donors who understand the need and won't miss the money. I am a 501c3 so I can accept that kind of money without creating tax liability. It would be a lot simpler and easier for everyone, and cut the drama. I agree this book should happen and I am the only one who can write it. I estimate a total cost of about $100K over 18 months, which will include a couple of crack researchers. The whole thing needs another layer of investigation and fact checking.
You talked about problems dealing with your Jewish friends. Well, there are lots of people of Jewish background who are very active in the anti-Genocide movement, in fact often acting as key organizers of the demonstrations. And likewise in the entire history of the anti-Zionist apartheid movement.
Excellent point about how hope can be a hindrance to doing anything, because instead of doing something lots of people will just put forth "hope" that things will change.
And an ominous note about how the chart shows the possibility that things could go in totally unexpected directions because of this.
It was buried down to the bottom of the NYT front page within hours. That's it -- one shot deal. We will not hear about this again from them.
You mean the ICC story? No surprise. Not sure how this is related to my comment. :-)
the larger topic is the genocide; I was discussing my Jewish friends in the context of that and the indictment of Bibi.
Well, there are lots of people of Jewish background who are using the G word and have no problems with Bibi's indictment. I know that you know one really well. :-) Just saying that people of Jewish background are not remotely of one opinion on this, not even those who are friends of yours.
What if this ICC motion was put forth by the ICJ? Perhaps then the next time Netanyahu spoke at the UN, the white helmets would
Move into the building and seize him. Now that’s international justice
The International Court of Justice is a civil litigation court between nations; individuals are not tried and the court only has jurisdiction to hear international disputes between governments.
That would have been the court to go to much closer to the beginning of the crisis. But in my perspective, this is a made-up situation, and Israel's responses was disproportionate and intended as genocide of the Palestinians, which has been going on in that region since at least the 1940s. Once a region is destabilized, and destroyed, and there is open war, it's nearly impossible to stop. That would take a massive international effort but moreover the political will to do so.
As a Quaker, I oppose all wars at all times. There has never been a "justified" war. Time after time, false flags are used to start them. My analysis of this is not political. It is religious. So yes I would call for a cease fire and immediate humanitarian intervention at all costs.
Mr. Coppolino,
Your commentary on the ICC arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant raises significant questions. I'd like to understand your perspective on the broader implications and practical solutions to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Given your critique, what steps do you suggest Israel take moving forward? Should they declare a ceasefire, withdraw from Gaza, and risk allowing Hamas to regroup? If not, what alternative actions do you propose?
Do you believe a ceasefire is viable without addressing the risk of Hamas reconstituting itself and launching further attacks? What measures should accompany such a ceasefire to ensure both security and peace?
You mention the ICC’s decision as a symbolic gesture. Do you believe the ICC has a practical role in resolving this conflict, or is it primarily a moral statement?
You appear to imply dissatisfaction with the Israeli leadership. Do you see any credible Palestinian leaders or factions who could negotiate and sustain peace with Israel? If so, how can they gain influence over groups like Hamas?
What is your view on the role of international actors? Should the international community impose specific conditions or support particular factions to foster peace?
Your insights into these questions would clarify your position and help contextualize the broader implications of your commentary.
As a Quaker, I oppose all wars at all times. There has never been a "justified" war. Time after time, false flags are used to start them. My analysis of this is not political. It is religious. So yes I would call for a cease fire and immediate humanitarian intervention at all costs. Then the international community involved in this proxy war deal with the stability problem. The world has had many opportunities to establish a two-state solution and Israel and its sock puppet the United States has never cooperated with that, including during Gulf War 1, started when the United States "would never take yes for an answer" and "does not engage in Arab-Arab conflicts." It certainly did.
Mr. Coppolino: Thank you for sharing your perspective. I appreciate your principled stance as a Quaker and your opposition to all wars. However, I’d like to address some of the practical implications of your views and ask for further clarification:
Ceasefire and Stability: You advocate for a ceasefire and humanitarian intervention at all costs, but who do you envision leading and enforcing such efforts? How do you propose addressing the risk of Hamas using a ceasefire to rearm and reconstitute itself?
Two-State Solution: You mention that the world has had opportunities to establish a two-state solution, but that Israel and the United States have not cooperated. Do you see any path forward for a two-state solution given the current leadership in Gaza and the West Bank? If so, what specific actions should be taken?
Proxy War and Stability: You suggest that the international community should "deal with the stability problem." Could you specify what you believe this would entail? Do you trust the international community, given its history of failures in similar conflicts, to address such a complex and volatile situation effectively?
False Flags: You assert that wars are often started with false flags. Could you elaborate on how this applies to the current conflict and whether you believe such claims affect the feasibility of achieving peace?
I ask these questions not to challenge your principles but to better understand how your position addresses the realities on the ground.
None of this is on my reporting beat. I am not covering the details of the conflict nor is my opinion of on the specifics of any use. I would refer you to Smedely Butler's treatise, War is a Racket.
https://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
Thank you for your response and for the reference to War is a Racket. While I understand your perspective as a pacifist and respect your focus on the broader critique of war, the questions I raised were aimed at understanding how your stance translates into actionable steps, especially in the context of the Israel-Palestine conflict.
Without engaging with the specifics, it’s difficult to see how your position could contribute to a practical resolution of this or similar conflicts. Wars may indeed be unjustifiable in your view, but they are also real, with lives at stake and complex dynamics at play. For instance:
If the international community is tasked with enforcing stability, who would lead this effort, and how would they address the realities of groups like Hamas?
Can a two-state solution emerge without addressing the ideological and strategic impasses of both sides?
Your opinions might hold more value than you think in framing these questions, even if your focus is not on the specifics. Abstract principles are valuable, but engaging with the practical realities could provide a bridge between your moral framework and actionable solutions.
The Zionist state (where i was born, in the last months of the Mandate, and lived till 1958, yesterday was the anniversary of my family leaving, US-bound) has been carrying out genocide even before formal independence, one can easily argue ever since the early decades of the 20th Century. This didn't start on October 7, 2023,
Your comment seems to presuppose that Israel is acting in good faith, which they have never done. Also, the Palestinian /Israeli binary is not a contest between equals. Israel has always ensured that it has the upper hand , by its many and accreting moves to marginalized and disempower the Palestinians , particularly those trapped- yes trapped, in Gaza.
Thanks, yes that paper certainly did its job!
If nothing else, it punted the "in silico sequence" concept into play. this is the heart of the matter.
Hi Eric, was the Corman Drosden restraction request paper also published when the sun was void of course in Scorpio?
No .... it was Thanksgiving weekend, a few degrees in.
The paper did its job. There was no way they were retracting or publishing that bomb. This whole thing will be understood in hindsight. So it's there....
Senator Lindsey Graham has tweeted that the ICC should be permanently sanctioned. Others in Congress have chimed in. Biden has condemned the decision. Looks like the ICC may be the only entity to face actual material consequences.
This has a time indication of just before 12:56 pm local time
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/21/icc-issues-arrest-warrant-for-israeli-pm-netanyahu-for-war-crimes-in-gaza