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In one of the comments below, I describe myself as an "outsider artist." Someone asked me what I meant; this is what I wrote —

Outsider artist is a term from the art world, which means someone who just showed up, self-taught like Banksy, without hybrid “insider artist” pedigree like from Pratt or RISD.

On the virus scene I am describing myself as one who has not come through the ranks of the “health freedom” or “alt medicine” movement or the “anti vax” movement, or who staked a claim to fame/expertise solely based on SARS-CoV-II or AIDS. I am not a doctor or PhD in any health field. (I have previously covered the AMA, and medical and nursing education.)

I arrived here from outside of virology, covering toxins fraud litigation and mass poisoning incidents, as well as financial fraud, quiet-title fraud (land theft) and other investigative areas — plus astrology. Decades of writing news articles based on the mundane astrology of events.

I was called into action and showed up on the beach of SARS-CoV-II and had to set up shop and establish a network of sources in a new field.

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I'm really tired of the false notion constantly floated by virus-pushers, claiming that no-virus people refuse to ever listen to yes-virus people. It's simply not true. Many of my supporters/followers also pay attention to yes-virus people! And I'm sure that's true for other no-virus people as well. And look at TEOC - Alec included quite a few yes-virus people!

And look at all the times yes-virus people ran from debates/discussions with no-virus people (some are documented here: https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/why-i-now-refuse-to-debate-steve-kirsch-or-richard-fleming-or-kevin-mccairn/).

And Sam Bailey interviewed Jessica Rose! She recently interviewed Rebecca Culshaw-Smith who doesn't take a clear-cut no-virus position, also Roman Bystrianyk. Tom Cowan interviews lots of people aren't necessarily no-virus. Alec has interviewed all sorts of people. You interview all sorts of people.

It's ridiculous to frame no-virus people this way, just because yes-virus presenters are finding that some of their followers are (understandably) fed up with their ongoing virus-hugging and say so. I know from reading ss comments that there are also plenty of patient no-virus people who politely let yes-virus presenters know that they're off the mark on this one issue. We see this all the time!

Also this notion that it's the job of no-virus people to conform to the fake yes-virus narrative for the sake of avoiding "division". How bizarre. We might as well all go along with the official narrative based on that logic.

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Great complication and commentary Eric!

Lol Whitney is arguing for people to do their own critical thinking while justifying yes-virus presenters who talk "virus" without valid evidence. She says they can't be expected to be an expert on everything. Well that's fine. I don't have any problem with someone who admits they haven't looked into it. What's annoying are the ones who prattle on as if they do know and end up misleading people... or unfairly talk trash about no-virus people.

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With the exception of Trozzi, they are all saying they're not interested in finding out. I thought it was hilarious Mercola admitted he didn't interview Andy and Tom, because Tom used to be cool till Andy misled him down Kooky Lane. What a hoot.

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I find Trozzi super-disingenuous. He's with "World Council for Health" so I contacted him and Tess Lawrie long ago, 3 times, and he never even acknowledged me (Tess insulted me and blew me off... while also "sending love" lol).

So they demonstrated even less willingness to practice transparency than the criminal government agencies.

https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Mark-Trozzi-and-Tess-Lawrie-SeptOct2022.pdf

Mark then responded indirectly by publishing a video wherein he played the victim of a “Strange Accusation” from no-virus people. https://drtrozzi.org/2022/10/11/a-strange-accusation/

He also claimed in one video or article (maybe the one with his son?) that he would post evidence for "SARS-COV-2" but instead just shared a lame blog citing some of the pseudoscience.

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Mark Bailey said he provided a two-hour presentation to his group a couple of years ago. I had no idea who he is. I wrote to Mark last night,

<< Wait — you have proof that Trozzi has long ago heard of the book-collecting natives on the island in the Tasman Sea?

“Son, they have strange customs there…" >>

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"Dear Dr.Trozzi, member of the World Council for Health Steering Committee"

LMAO

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Mercola might bump into them on Kooky Lane: he just fired everyone, including his sister, after consulting a psychic (not that there's anything wrong with that, as Seinfeld would say)

https://www.naturalproductsinsider.com/market-trends-analysis/dr-mercola-consulted-with-psychic-before-axing-top-executives

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I was the psychic; he called me.

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Did you have to tell him to sack the sister?

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I told him they are all Freemasons and are out to get him and that the ghost of Dr Flexner could only protect him for so long. I also advised him to get all of the different covid shots to prove that he believes in the virus. And I advised him to take 1,000,000 IU of synthetic vitamin D3 every day.

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LOL!

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Lol

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Yes Whitters says no virus is a distracting and unnecessary 'detail' that polarises the debate and makes it more difficult for 'us' to inform the (implied stupid) public 'they' are being lied to. Yet she wants to instil critical thinking and using their own brains in her audience. Which is it? We're dumb and need a unified simplified message or we're able to use our brains and can discern for ourselves?

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Bingo.

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Rebecca knows what's going on. I think she's concerned about alienating virus huggers.

And you will get a laugh out of this dusty artifact

https://planetwaves.net/2020-guests-pwfm/

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"Prof. Ebright is by contract prohibited from giving TV and radio interviews"

Thank God!

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You've come a long way!!

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I think it's high time the lurgy fraudsters felt the wrath of the common law.

I'd like to run something by you, in regards to reverse engineering what the state is trying to do to farms/us.

Take bird flu for example. We know their claims are fraudulent and there is no proof of existence or transmission of the fake bird lurgy.

So what we have done in Universal Community Trust with mortgage fraud [to name but one], farms/homesteaders could do with bird lurgy/TB fraud.

https://www.thebernician.net/the-noca-to-knockout-the-tuberculosis-scamdemic/

Under the common law, a lien right to seek a non-judicial remedy arises when a party commits a civil wrong doing against another party, who suffers loss, injury or damage as a result, as per the English Law of Liens in Halsbury's Laws of England.

In other words, the common law equitable lien is a way for farms/us to turn the tables on these fraudsters whilst simultaneously accumulating damages. Especially so if numerous people did it, like a class action.

Essentially, the fraudulent governing bodies would be at the mercy of the common law equitable lien, with communities forming a unified response to the fraud, reverse engineering the damage caused by the fraudsters pursuing the UN SDG's/WEF agenda.

The damages suffered by farms during the bird lurgy fraud are huge, so the damages accrued in the Affidavit of Obligation would be huge, once the lien is properly perfected (90 days from receipt of Affidavit of Obligation).

So that you have an idea of the process, the lien for mortgage fraud is here https://www.thebernician.net/mortgage-fraud-101-the-commercial-lien-process/, which would be the same process for bird flu etc.

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Thank you Calvin. I knew there was something I forgot to add to the newsletter I just sent out.

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Susanne Humphries wrote Dissolving Illusions. It provides the long term statistics that show vaccines didn’t have anything to do with the declining death rates and comprehensive circumstantial evidence that shows there’s no virus. Her research is excellent, but she has a limiting belief apparently from years ago… maybe decades. I think she likes being in a tribe after being excluded from allopathic medicine.

Her book reminds me of RFK’s on Fauci. They show a pattern of dots but they refuse to connect them.

Great episode. The focus from you, the Bailey’s, Tom Cowan, Peggy Hall and others on the Virus Pushers Against Clot Shots is exposing their deception.

Peggy Hall is suggesting a scenario where some upcoming virus scam will include the idea of the injections being adequately tested. It’s plausible.

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Yes Susanne Humphries also makes logical errors, perhaps causing the interviewer to get the giggles and snigger delightedly in the background.

SH says that adults not getting repeats of childhood poxes shows that chicken pox is caused by a virus which stimulates subsequent immunity (though not to Shingles). However whenever she is exposed to the 'flu' she gets ill. Why would you repeatedly get ill every year when pre-exposure to a virus is meant to make you immune? If it's cos of mutations; why doesn't the chicken pox virus mutate?

The whole vaccination thing is based on the fallacy that cow pox (which seemed to be limited to hands of milk maids and udders of cows; so not a systemic disease) and pre-exposure in general protected against small pox and future disease. There was never any evidence of that.

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ahhhh!!! yeah...flu repeated vs chicken pox one time virus. People say, "I had covid five times!" and also got injected three times...it's great to see the virus concept and presentations of its advocates taken to the level of focused observation and analysis. This is a great conversation and the chick is pecking through the egg. <3

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peck peck peck 🐣 🐥x

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Tom Cowan, among others, has dispelled one-time poxes.

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I remember thinking , when Mercola gave this interview, and essentially threw Cowan and Kaufman under the bus, at a time when they were being pelted left and right by tomatoes and beer cans, that Mercola saw the implications to his business, i.e. that so many items in his apothecary include "anti-viral", "anti microbial", and" immune boosting products". Now I wonder if its also more than that.

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It’s more than that.

This is a conspiracy.

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I thought the 9/11 engineer was a great comparison topic for the Virus-Pushers issue. I listened to the other info on psychological wrestling after 9/11 and I never had that problem either, not for even one second. Just like when I first watched how, and listened to descriptions of, just how they ahem "Isolate" a virus, I instantly said "Oh, That's Total Bullshit !!"

When I was working in floorcovering decades ago, My team was the one always sent in when the fast, sloppy, cheaper crews with fly-by-night-hack level skills screwed the pooch and simple repairs were not enough to make it right Enter the skilled, experienced, expensive, mop up crew who tore it out and got it done right.. SO I was in a residential setting replacing a wood floor done BADLY and the homeowners had the TV on that morning so we saw it right when it was happening. We stopped working and just gawked at the screen while the first tower was burning, and as the second tower got hit. We all were frozen, watching, waiting, .... The very moment the first tower hit the basement, I flat out said, "That's Bullshit, THAT Is A Controlled Demolition !!!" Then when the second tower dropped just the same, I exclaimed "SEE !! Same Controlled Demolition !!". Then we had to get back to our work, which we still got done by the end of the day. Then I went home, turned on the tube, burned a few bong-hits and watched the building 7 debacle. There was NEVER any chance of convincing me of anything other than exactly what I saw. I caught a shit ton of backlash over my opinions at the time. "How Unpatriotic" many said. They were right, .. I was PISSED, but not at highjackers, I was pissed at my government. No, I was not one of what I called the "Suddenly Patriotic" types who rushed to buy a flag they never had before, only to find empty shelves. THAT right there, the suddenly empty shelves bearing NO flags for sale, was an extremely telling thing for me. It showed me how very easily it was to brainwash the masses. It also showed me I was not one of them. It has been a long 22+ years of taking heat from the normies about my opinion of 9/11 and it still continues, as they still believe the narrative given. Sigh. Perhaps being overrun by totalitarian jackboots on the neck is exactly what this country deserves ?? Same with the virus-pushers and booster-death ?? Gee, I hope I can live safely, .... until I get stuffed into a guillotine by rabid zionist globalist anti-Christians. sigh. Then again, perhaps I won't, ... I'm old, .... and it seems, possibly, Lucky for it.

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I knew it was BS when I saw George W's face when he got the news sitting in that classroom with a bunch of elementary students.

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Yeah, emotionless, like he was expecting it.

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Derrick Broze is a self-styled investigative journalist and puts on the annual conference called The Greater Reset with John Bush—and the two are also founders of the Freedom Cell Network. He does seem to have an agenda around promoting the “viruses exist” point of view, always asking whenever he’s talking to what their opinion is. He has interviewed Cowan and Kaufman, and clearly, perhaps willfully, did not understand what they said.

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Once put into simple terms, it's not difficult to grasp.

However, a reporter is not supposed to come to a conclusion if he doesn't understand something, but I guess he would have to know that. He should be pretty easy to find, and he promotes himself as open-minded. I'll reach out to him.

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Broze is a perfect example of someone’ not letting a crisis go to waste.

Crisis = opportunity.

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In response to the backlash he got for his Corbett interview he (naturally) decided to accuse Cowan and Kaufman of "perhaps" not being real doctors.

https://x.com/zwergie1/status/1671956357233213464?s=20

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I watched those and it seemed like he was following along just fine.

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I liked how they both laughed and ridiculed, .... then Instantly Broze says Now Onto Other Things and begins advertising his next 5 day grift. Wonderful, it just ooozes credibility. lol

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I’ve heard him say he thinks terrain and germ theory are both true. If he really thinks this, he doesn’t understand what they said. Of course, he sometimes comes across as a petulant child when people don’t agree with him, so maybe he understands perfectly but insists he’s right anyway.

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Susan Humphries is someone I found in the last decade who uncovered quite a bit of the corruption she speaks of in virology with regard to childhood vaccinations. Some may remember Bill Gates marketing campaign for vaccinations in the US he called "The Decade of Vaccines". I have done limited searches for clips of this material with no luck. Susan did a two part lecture in Denmark titled "Manufacturing Consent" in 2006 or just after and I often shared it with other parents who were considering whether to vaccinate their babies. About the time my second was born in 2007 ( first in 2002) I noticed that there was a new hostility being aim at the "idiots" who didn't vaxx their kids. And it began growing. Never saw the term anti-vaxxer before and it was probably around 2015 or 2016 I began to notice it being lumped in with right wing nuts. Some of these people like Humphries are very likely being blackmailed. She knows way better than to make some of the outrageous statements she is saying based on the voracity of her work in the old lectures.

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She’s long been a virus believer even though her research basically reveals vaccines and virology are a hoax.

If she’s been bribed, then the criminals got to her very early in her arc. I’m more prone to explain her position as a belief that began early in her life… like when she her polio sugar cube.

I remember waiting in line after church. I think it was 1956. My parents were seriously relieved their children would not suffer from polio (eh! Real causes were DDT, arsenic, etc.) and the doctor wearing the white lab coat were all part of a sin ester ritual.

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If she's been bribed, why would she spout "information" easily proven false, such as "they do believe in SV-40"?

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It's a good defense, if it had some truth to it. I'm the only affiliate of Missing Virus patrol that has raised a fuss about it. I dug into the issue in the summer of 2020. There is one very good thing learned from SV-40, which are the stringent protocols needed to get potentially honest readings from the PCR, including extremely clean labs and stringent QA/QC.

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" if it had some truth to it." That's the point. She asserted something which is false on its face.

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I obviously spoke from the hip regarding blackmail. I have no idea. It just seems plausible that could be happening on some level with some players. Shrug.

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Sure. Believing that is easier than accepting that maybe... some people are lying, consciously or otherwise, to defend turf.

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Humans are vulnerable emotional beings. She might be hiding something in her past.

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Sure, but why compound things, impeach yourself, with something easily proven false?

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The impeachment was — can you think of anyone who has raised the issue? Also it's NOT a contagion. If real, it's passed through injection.

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Contagion is the central contention.

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It’s just not logical, is it?

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Nope!

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A sugar cube. THE gateway drug.

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Not just for breakfast. Lol

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The perpetuation of an invisible virus, which can strike anyone at any given time, is a particularly effective control mechanism. The invisible microbe is the perfect device with which to create an atmosphere of constant and imperceptable dread, an everywhere-yet-nowhere, ill-defined invisible terror that could strike anyone at any given moment.

The frightening virus which emerges from shadowy places where “primitive things” happen- a secreted lab in a remote location, a “wet market” in a dirty Asian alley populated by exotic animals being sold as edibles for the “natives” or from the heart of darkness of the African jungle where primitive dangers lurk behind every tree.

The Virus® that creates The Disease® presents yet more investment opportunities for the parasitic "health management" ghouls, NGO's, military contractors, investment firms, Big Pharma and for the once obscure alternative super sleuthy journalists/doctors/health evangelists who dole out esoteric explanations and alternative remedies to battle this bio-weapon sorcery and viral delusion.

They're all in on it up to their necks and will have none of that sassy backtalk from "no virus" whackos who ask them to "risk it all" and do something so daring as (GASP!) read the Methods section of a bogus study upon which their flimsy belief system depends.

Now my apologies to any and all for pointing out one other niggling little contradictory tidbit that these virus huggers embrace in their studious ignorance on this testiest of testy topics- these ersatz oppositional actors, while claiming to be frontline fighters against officialdom, are as a point of fact walking arm in arm through the corridors of power with the bio-security apparatus and the medical establishment as they wholeheartedly endorse one of THE lynch pins that fuels these fascistic medical despots and State bureaucrats.

Of course not all of these self-appointed mavericks are merely ill-informed, obdurate and ideologically fixated- for who can ignore that there's money to be made from the Viral Gravy Train both coming and going.

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Aren't exosomes visible? That's what seem to have been called "viruses."

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And now i listened to the Richard Gage conversation as well. Excellent job on both your parts. His description of his experience on 9/11 was poignant, how he was overcome by the very experience of watching the TV presentation, and its powerful emotional appeal. His knowledge of architecture, his seeing a building appearing to be blown up did not matter, as his analytical abilities were shut down.. Exactly the same thing happened to me, an engineer with a degree and ample science background: my critical faculties were overruled by trauma, fear. I wrote about that, here, https://jeffreystrahl.substack.com/p/from-911-to-311-part-1

(Part 2, linked, is about me and Operation "Pandemic")

Excellent job on your part, Eric, in listening to him present his perspective on Operation "Pandemic," basically a version of the "movement"'s mainstream celebrity leadership limited hangout narrative, and not interrupting him. Instead, after hearing him out, you presented your own perspective and the results of your investigations. Sounded to me like you gave him stuff to chew on which he hasn't heard before. The "mainstream" of the 9/11 truth movement is totally enmeshed in the "Pandemic"/"COVID-19"/"SARS-Cov-2” fraud narrative cum "lab-leaked bio-weapon." This might give them pause.

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As regards Whitney Webb. It sounded to me like she really had no idea about the virus issue, but just got upset when the subject went nasty on her chat forum. I have to say that it's not just the virus proponents who have many aggressive and insulting supporters, I've experienced the same zealotry from followers of the no virus camp (note I say followers, not the well known proponents). It seems there is always a contingent of people who have their own reasons for taking one stance or another and will not permit any dissent or discussion around the received wisdom. I've been sorely disappointed by people like James Corbett and Ivor Cummins, who on other subjects have been exemplary. I don't like gurus and idols, but I do appreciate critical thinking, authenticity and consistency. I have to say it's hard to think of many investigators that don't trip themselves up badly. No one is perfect of course, but willful ignorance and unwillingness to admit error is extremely disappointing to say the least. So far Eric, I've found your presentations very even handed, forensic and fascinating. I liked that you drew parallels between the psychology of the virus believers and the 911 incident. Great stuff!

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I love me some Johnny Cash. He introduced the snare drum to country. 🥁 and he incorporated an electric guitar played by Luther. His driving bass twang is unmistakable. Johnny’s deep vouches my source.

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Indeed, not a single one of the 5 celebrities we've heard bothered dealing with the responses to FOI requests for a proof of or knowledge of proof of the virus being isolated and purified. They all went into "Blah blah, terrain theory vs virus theory....divisive.... confetti proves it" raps plus "lab-leaked bio-weapon" gain of fiction.. None of them showed the least bit of familiarity with the formative studies, i.e. Fan Wu Peng Zhou, LiLi Ren....It came down to "trust us, we know what we should all be focusing on" Circular reasoning justifying evidence which is based upon circular reasoning.

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https://www.bitchute.com/video/DquL8U6mB7Ob/ at five minutes Broze actually mentions FOIAs in his set up question for MCullough.

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Do they deal with them, though? A real BRIEF mention.

NOPE! McCullough just goes to the "distraction" routine, "Or course they've been isolated," (asserting in the face of the FOI responses denying this) and then claims "we can see them via electron microscopy," a claim which has been shredded (specifically regarding McCullough) by the Baileys and Cowan.

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Appeal to emotion and you don't have to make sense. Sad sad sad.

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You just have to know the relevant emotional triggers which can be used.

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As far as the claims on Johnny Cash, the conservatives get his gospel side and the liberals get his common man secularism. Any Johnny Cash admirer should check out June Carter Cash's record Press On released in 1998 that this humble american musical royalty made in their rural Tennessee cabin with Norman Blake, Marty Stewart and more. Fucking precious

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There were zoom calls early on in 2020 of the group that became Virus Pushers Against Clot Shots. They bamboozled some by saying ‘The people aren’t ready for the whole truth.”

It was a big group. I wasn’t invited, but one or two of my acquaintances mentioned it more than once.

Maybe you have the reach to draw out one of those who might now be realizing the secret conspiracy was dishonest or at least trickery and ready to blow the whistle.

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My take is that tribal consciousness will prevail. They don't care what they "believe," as long as they get to hang out with the cool kids.

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And by the way, GREAT selections by Johnny Cash, namely Wanted Man, San Quentin and Folsom Prison Blues. He spoke to those specific audiences better than anyone else who played to them. Always liked Big River too, as did Dylan (and another Bob whom we both like. :-) )

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ah forgot about Big River!!

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Personally, I think they may be releasing something from their spray planes or possibly, in the water.

Raising animals of all sorts makes it very obvious something is going on, however I do not think it's a contagious "bug", man-made or otherwise.

There are some very heinous activities afoot.

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The pattern of excess deaths in Spring 2020 does not at all fit one which would be expected from a chemical release of any sort, geographically speaking. Others have raised this notion, specifically about New York City, but went silent when confronted with graphics of maps containing excess death numbers per county, indeed one which this one particular person themselves posted.

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A lot of deaths were caused by doctors, totally skewing any "patterns".

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Doctors and even more, hospital protocols. In other words, very little to do with any chemical releases either, let alone pathogens. That's the point.

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