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A bunch of studies have been made, they've all reached very similar figures, despite starting from totally different places, be they physical, cultural or psychological. Why would gay advocacy people and centers understate the numbers?

To clarify, my earlier "kindly fuck off remark" was in the context of what i experienced in those communities and may experience in dissent communities in the future. Not at all personally directed at either you or Eric.

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did not even consider the thought that you directed anything about your comment at me or Eric. I am not judging your sexuality at all.

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Thanks, Iva, i wanted to make sure readers were clear on that too. I guess i've accumulated a lot of bad feelings about being pressured about that matter from all sorts of directions, be it from the correctness anarchists/"Situationists" i described being around, or from my father, who kept saying back when i was in college that he'll send me to a psychiatrist to see if i was gay (he used a different term) because i wasn't dating girls (try doing that while being an asocial engineering student in uptight late 60s New York outside the East Village or the like), or those who threatened me with gay bashing on UC Berkeley's Sproul Plaza for jeering speakers at a Fundi Christian rally who were using extreme homophobic language in their rants.

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not taking it personally - this is sensitive territory

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