I want to thank you for defending the globe model of Earth. James Hillman said literalizations that bury the soul always need dissolving. It might be beneficial to recognize archetypal aspects of consensus reality, without immediately literalizing an archaic alternative. We are so deeply destabilized (digital conditions!), we are desperate for a sense of ground, but because the idea is archetypal it can possess the devotee, who is then immune to reason. I say this without having looked deeply into flat earth theory. There are so many immediately ridiculous assertions, such as that people on the bottom of a globe would fall off, that I’m not willing to spend time on the mathematical arguments, which seem elegant, and archetypal. Jung said the earth is flat in the unconscious.
Also thank you for insisting that, although a lot of people are doing it now, not everyone throughout history has been lying to us. I don’t know when intention to deceive stopped being part of the definition of a lie. No distinction is recognized between the intentions of those who would use ideas for control and those who actually had original ideas.
You may appreciate an incident in my life that came to mind as I was triggered by all this. Ultimately my degree was in biology, with a later degree in fiction, but before that I was a physics major with the goal of going into astronomy. I was in the hall at New Mexico State talking to Clyde Tombaugh, or rather he was talking to me, urgently describing canals and evidence of civilization on Mars. I think we can agree he was probably wrong, and I thought at the time he was wrong, but he was NOT LYING.
The bell rang, the hall cleared of other people, and he went on assuring me with guileless enthusiasm that he had seen all this through the telescope. I didn’t know what to say. I tried to reach a level of perception that would permit me to share his vision. Finally I just said I had to go to class. Many years later I was living in a trailer without plumbing, which is relevant because it was the setting in which I heard on the news that his ashes were passing Pluto. I had my own little celebration in the trailer and felt exalted for the rest of the day.
Keep up the resistance. Thank you for adding the Course in Miracles talks to your other transmissions, for which continuing thanks.
I have looked into it carefully. Not only is not not supported by ANY data, it's a gaslighting campaign of embarrassing proportions. I am an astrologer and planetary astronomer. I work with the calculations of the sphere model about five times per hour and have for 30 years. There is no problem with the sphere model. By now you might think I had found one.
Tell me: if the Earth is flat, then how is tomorrow's eclipse of the Sun going to happen?
I’m not exactly sure, but I do know for sure that the Covid viruses have ganged up to block the sun and wreak havoc in the flat earth community. Those bastards.
Frankly, I don't fully understand why I would need to definitably know so bad one way or the other. I mean, if my work depended on it, I can understand, but otherwise the need to defend Flat or contest Round is important why?
Well that is an important question. Why? Why say this is the biggest conspiracy ever? Who really cares the shape of the planet as long as your airplane lands at the end of the runway in the time zone you're expecting.
I know, so ridiculous. But -- in those who proffer the false issue, there is a motive. There is an problem. And there is a misunderstanding. "Flat Earth" was the position of the Official Patriarchy -- the Church of Rome.
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Hi Eric,
I want to thank you for defending the globe model of Earth. James Hillman said literalizations that bury the soul always need dissolving. It might be beneficial to recognize archetypal aspects of consensus reality, without immediately literalizing an archaic alternative. We are so deeply destabilized (digital conditions!), we are desperate for a sense of ground, but because the idea is archetypal it can possess the devotee, who is then immune to reason. I say this without having looked deeply into flat earth theory. There are so many immediately ridiculous assertions, such as that people on the bottom of a globe would fall off, that I’m not willing to spend time on the mathematical arguments, which seem elegant, and archetypal. Jung said the earth is flat in the unconscious.
Also thank you for insisting that, although a lot of people are doing it now, not everyone throughout history has been lying to us. I don’t know when intention to deceive stopped being part of the definition of a lie. No distinction is recognized between the intentions of those who would use ideas for control and those who actually had original ideas.
You may appreciate an incident in my life that came to mind as I was triggered by all this. Ultimately my degree was in biology, with a later degree in fiction, but before that I was a physics major with the goal of going into astronomy. I was in the hall at New Mexico State talking to Clyde Tombaugh, or rather he was talking to me, urgently describing canals and evidence of civilization on Mars. I think we can agree he was probably wrong, and I thought at the time he was wrong, but he was NOT LYING.
The bell rang, the hall cleared of other people, and he went on assuring me with guileless enthusiasm that he had seen all this through the telescope. I didn’t know what to say. I tried to reach a level of perception that would permit me to share his vision. Finally I just said I had to go to class. Many years later I was living in a trailer without plumbing, which is relevant because it was the setting in which I heard on the news that his ashes were passing Pluto. I had my own little celebration in the trailer and felt exalted for the rest of the day.
Keep up the resistance. Thank you for adding the Course in Miracles talks to your other transmissions, for which continuing thanks.
Elizabeth
Why haven't you looked deeply into the flat earth model?
I have looked into it carefully. Not only is not not supported by ANY data, it's a gaslighting campaign of embarrassing proportions. I am an astrologer and planetary astronomer. I work with the calculations of the sphere model about five times per hour and have for 30 years. There is no problem with the sphere model. By now you might think I had found one.
Tell me: if the Earth is flat, then how is tomorrow's eclipse of the Sun going to happen?
I’m not exactly sure, but I do know for sure that the Covid viruses have ganged up to block the sun and wreak havoc in the flat earth community. Those bastards.
Now you're talking.
The ECLIPSE OBJECT is in the mind. The ICE WALL is the ego. The stationary plane around which all else orbits is NARCISSISTIC.
Frankly, I don't fully understand why I would need to definitably know so bad one way or the other. I mean, if my work depended on it, I can understand, but otherwise the need to defend Flat or contest Round is important why?
Well that is an important question. Why? Why say this is the biggest conspiracy ever? Who really cares the shape of the planet as long as your airplane lands at the end of the runway in the time zone you're expecting.
why. oh, it plagues us so.
I know, so ridiculous. But -- in those who proffer the false issue, there is a motive. There is an problem. And there is a misunderstanding. "Flat Earth" was the position of the Official Patriarchy -- the Church of Rome.
corrected.