May was declared Masturbation Month by Pres. Biden in a Rose Garden ceremony. OK, actually, it was created by women's sex toy stores in the 1990s. On tonight's program, I reintroduce Dr. Betty Dodson.
I'm finally done with the show. Great job, Iva! I hope she had a good time and goes on to do great things! I can't wait for the next two installments. Shame on you, Eric. You know I have zero patience for things like stories, Gemini as I am.
Thank you both for sharing. Betty seems like she was an extremely unique person. Our human race has had some serious sexual hang-ups for entirely too long, and bless her for telling everyone so! As a conservative, it's crazy to realize I've always been more liberal about sex than my peers...who call themselves liberals! The one's who are into feminism nowdays are just man hating, placard wavers and I've never seen the point in hating a group, no matter how you divvy them up. Nor do I see the utility in slogans on a sign...which of course, earns me the title conservative. ;-)
Oh! I finally found out how to get all the asteroids plotted in my chart. Wow. I thought it was interesting before, but goodness me oh my. I reallllly need to purchase a reading. It'd be a great 50th birthday prezie to myself. And it must be done before my Chiron return! Must. So...I'll send you an email about it or maybe give you a call and see if you have a slot available. I can't imagine getting a reading from anyone else now that I'm familiar with your work.
I've not had the time to study astrology much lately and it truly seems like a "use it or loose it" type of skill. I can't seem to remember the houses and always have to look them up. And I wasn't even aware astrologers were using all the asteroids and such until I found you. I'm going to have to get a reading list and add even more books to my study stack! I will eventually find the time to get back to learning and when I do, I'd prefer to have all the information available.
My pleasure, dear! And you're most welcome. I'm all for powerful and independent women, but I'm not into the victimhood mentality today's culture seems to adore. Being a wife and mother is my superpower! Affecting the next generation is how we truly "win the game" of life, in my opinion. The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world is a very true saying and one that women have forgotten, sometimes to their detriment.
Loving my son and supporting my husband in no way makes me less of a person than a CEO or congressman. In fact, I love my job...unlike so many sad 9 to 5'vers and while I may too "work for the man", he's MY MAN and not some stranger in a suit! LOL
Well, I haven’t gotten to the interview with Iva yet, but I listened with immense interest to the analysis of Betty Dodson’s chart. So fascinating! It inspires me to delve into my own chart and it makes me curious about what revelations are in the charts of other people I know. I also appreciated hearing Betty Dodson’s 1974 article from Ms.Magazine. It stirred up a lot for me!
Here is a funny and revealing story from my own life. I never got the chance to discover masturbation on my own as a child. Instead, my mother sat my brother, sister and I down one summer day when we were about 7 or 8 years old and had the masturbation talk with us. (I wonder if or when I would have found it on my own otherwise?!?)
When my mother was a child, she was told she would go blind if she masturbated! Apparently my grandmother caught her in the act and that was her way of scaring my mother out of ever touching herself again! And apparently it worked. My mother was terrified that she would go blind. How terrible!
Once my mom became an adult however, she finally realized masturbation does not cause blindness. So when she had her own children, she wanted them to know that masturbation is normal and healthy. Of course the masturbation talk left us all feeling a bit squeamish and uncomfortable especially after my mother compared masturbation to eating an ice cream cone! “Ugh, mom!” But secretly and to my delight, it led me to my own glorious self exploration. I was amazed my body could do such a miraculous thing! I think I went a little overboard with it for awhile. 😂
The 1974 article by Betty Dotson was quite special. Quite a year it was, personally and in the world at large. I had no idea of the 1712 text which set forth the anti-masturbation agenda, clearly part of repressing female sexuality and deforming male sexuality as well. I will say there are a couple of differences i have. I won't mention my agreements because that would take an article even longer than hers. :-)
She reduced stimulation during vaginal intercourse to what happens to the clitoris. Was she not aware of the G-spot, or just didn't think it was significant?
She equated masturbation and partner sex are different sides of the same thing. I think masturbation is extremely important for everyone to practice, even people in relationships, but having an interaction with another human being and losing yourself in it (meaning ii'm considering only satisfying interactions) is expansionary of consciousness in a totally different way, just like playing music with someone besides yourself or tools you manipulate like a metronome, a loop generator,...
And she asserted that masturbation leads to more satisfying partner sex. This is only true if one has a partner or has regular occasion to have at least a casual partner. If you're not used to dealing with another human being, you can easily come to see it as not worth the effort, if you can get off by yourself. In addition, it's nice to have the *choice*. Does not sound like she ever lacked for such a choice for long periods of time. After almost 32 years, i can say that having recourse ONLY to yourself can easily get tiresome, one needs to make more of an effort if that's all there is and all there's likely to be coming down the turnpike.
Thanks for this Jeffery! Indeed Betty was a trail blazer, but it's easy to have differences. Which is the point of bringing topics such as sex and masturbation out of the shadows. We each have a slightly or largely different angle. Not wrong or right, but a variety of ways to explore something so basically human.
I have now heard your segment. Lots of interesting stuff, a few bizarre items, ...just like Betty. :-) Really liked the entire discussion starting from the 1712 Onania anti-masturbation clarion call and through Freud's baseless attack on it, his dumping of Eros and embrace of Thanatos, and Wilhelm Reich's subsequent split with Freud. Yep, the mass psychology of Fascism and its root in sexual repression. Thank you and Eric for this. And a posthumous thanks to Betty for bringing the sex-positive angle into feminism. I remembered how when Toronto enacted an anti-porn ordinance around 1990, the first publication targeted turned out to be .... a lesbian magazine.
I am not defending masturbation. I am treating it like it exists and is meaningful. I am going over its history, and the contributions of one person who turned the tide.
also I could not find THAT segment on YouTube. I only found it on Facebook, so I had to capture the audio. However, the "precious bodily fluid" thing applies to westernized Taoist ideas about sex as well as Gen. Ripper, who guards his manly vitality — and pushes the button, so to say
I'm not sure if it promotes masturbation, but it's certainly barbaric, re circumcision. And if it does, it's certainly the opposite of what they intended. Taking away eggs and bacon and replacing them with grains to "dull the senses" is so puritanically ridiculous, of course they'd want to chop off sensitive parts of baby boys.
Thankfully, my husband nor my son were mutilated as infants.
In the "ancient world" masturbation was not a "thing." It only becomes a "thing" around 1712. It is not referenced anywhere in scripture, old or new testaments. There is no religious basis for the masturbation prohibition. The objection is secular. Circumcision has many effects, the most notable of which is to sever the bond of trust between the mother and the boy, because the mother is supposed to protect him from that kind of pain, at that age.
How do you "haze" a week old infant? Or does this hazing happen as young men? And how is it hazing if they're all snipped? And how does it ID them if most American's have taken up the practice?
I'm more confused by your reply than I was by my nine typos. - okay, edit number one. lmao! Mercury Retro, I suppose.
I'm finally done with the show. Great job, Iva! I hope she had a good time and goes on to do great things! I can't wait for the next two installments. Shame on you, Eric. You know I have zero patience for things like stories, Gemini as I am.
Thank you both for sharing. Betty seems like she was an extremely unique person. Our human race has had some serious sexual hang-ups for entirely too long, and bless her for telling everyone so! As a conservative, it's crazy to realize I've always been more liberal about sex than my peers...who call themselves liberals! The one's who are into feminism nowdays are just man hating, placard wavers and I've never seen the point in hating a group, no matter how you divvy them up. Nor do I see the utility in slogans on a sign...which of course, earns me the title conservative. ;-)
Oh! I finally found out how to get all the asteroids plotted in my chart. Wow. I thought it was interesting before, but goodness me oh my. I reallllly need to purchase a reading. It'd be a great 50th birthday prezie to myself. And it must be done before my Chiron return! Must. So...I'll send you an email about it or maybe give you a call and see if you have a slot available. I can't imagine getting a reading from anyone else now that I'm familiar with your work.
I've not had the time to study astrology much lately and it truly seems like a "use it or loose it" type of skill. I can't seem to remember the houses and always have to look them up. And I wasn't even aware astrologers were using all the asteroids and such until I found you. I'm going to have to get a reading list and add even more books to my study stack! I will eventually find the time to get back to learning and when I do, I'd prefer to have all the information available.
Again, thanks for another great show!
Thanks Janice! So glad you get it. Right there with you on the utility slogans on a sign and feminism representing man hating.
Keep busting the chops of the sexual hangup crowd!!
My pleasure, dear! And you're most welcome. I'm all for powerful and independent women, but I'm not into the victimhood mentality today's culture seems to adore. Being a wife and mother is my superpower! Affecting the next generation is how we truly "win the game" of life, in my opinion. The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world is a very true saying and one that women have forgotten, sometimes to their detriment.
Loving my son and supporting my husband in no way makes me less of a person than a CEO or congressman. In fact, I love my job...unlike so many sad 9 to 5'vers and while I may too "work for the man", he's MY MAN and not some stranger in a suit! LOL
Great interview, Iva and Eric! I was fascinated all the way through and I look forward to the next installments.
Well, I haven’t gotten to the interview with Iva yet, but I listened with immense interest to the analysis of Betty Dodson’s chart. So fascinating! It inspires me to delve into my own chart and it makes me curious about what revelations are in the charts of other people I know. I also appreciated hearing Betty Dodson’s 1974 article from Ms.Magazine. It stirred up a lot for me!
Here is a funny and revealing story from my own life. I never got the chance to discover masturbation on my own as a child. Instead, my mother sat my brother, sister and I down one summer day when we were about 7 or 8 years old and had the masturbation talk with us. (I wonder if or when I would have found it on my own otherwise?!?)
When my mother was a child, she was told she would go blind if she masturbated! Apparently my grandmother caught her in the act and that was her way of scaring my mother out of ever touching herself again! And apparently it worked. My mother was terrified that she would go blind. How terrible!
Once my mom became an adult however, she finally realized masturbation does not cause blindness. So when she had her own children, she wanted them to know that masturbation is normal and healthy. Of course the masturbation talk left us all feeling a bit squeamish and uncomfortable especially after my mother compared masturbation to eating an ice cream cone! “Ugh, mom!” But secretly and to my delight, it led me to my own glorious self exploration. I was amazed my body could do such a miraculous thing! I think I went a little overboard with it for awhile. 😂
The "Pandemic" is over, long live the "Pandemic," as the WHO is charging on with weaponizing "contagion" against the world: https://www.who.int/news/item/26-04-2023-who-launches-new-initiative-to-improve-pandemic-preparedness.
The 1974 article by Betty Dotson was quite special. Quite a year it was, personally and in the world at large. I had no idea of the 1712 text which set forth the anti-masturbation agenda, clearly part of repressing female sexuality and deforming male sexuality as well. I will say there are a couple of differences i have. I won't mention my agreements because that would take an article even longer than hers. :-)
She reduced stimulation during vaginal intercourse to what happens to the clitoris. Was she not aware of the G-spot, or just didn't think it was significant?
She equated masturbation and partner sex are different sides of the same thing. I think masturbation is extremely important for everyone to practice, even people in relationships, but having an interaction with another human being and losing yourself in it (meaning ii'm considering only satisfying interactions) is expansionary of consciousness in a totally different way, just like playing music with someone besides yourself or tools you manipulate like a metronome, a loop generator,...
And she asserted that masturbation leads to more satisfying partner sex. This is only true if one has a partner or has regular occasion to have at least a casual partner. If you're not used to dealing with another human being, you can easily come to see it as not worth the effort, if you can get off by yourself. In addition, it's nice to have the *choice*. Does not sound like she ever lacked for such a choice for long periods of time. After almost 32 years, i can say that having recourse ONLY to yourself can easily get tiresome, one needs to make more of an effort if that's all there is and all there's likely to be coming down the turnpike.
Thanks for this Jeffery! Indeed Betty was a trail blazer, but it's easy to have differences. Which is the point of bringing topics such as sex and masturbation out of the shadows. We each have a slightly or largely different angle. Not wrong or right, but a variety of ways to explore something so basically human.
I have now heard your segment. Lots of interesting stuff, a few bizarre items, ...just like Betty. :-) Really liked the entire discussion starting from the 1712 Onania anti-masturbation clarion call and through Freud's baseless attack on it, his dumping of Eros and embrace of Thanatos, and Wilhelm Reich's subsequent split with Freud. Yep, the mass psychology of Fascism and its root in sexual repression. Thank you and Eric for this. And a posthumous thanks to Betty for bringing the sex-positive angle into feminism. I remembered how when Toronto enacted an anti-porn ordinance around 1990, the first publication targeted turned out to be .... a lesbian magazine.
Iva, thank you. Yep, luckily there is variety, we don't all march to the same beat, otherwise we'd really be in trouble. :-
I have not gotten to your segment yet, will do so later today, looking forward to it.
lol!
As the mom of a lazy Leo, I concur about the irony, or maybe it was amazing perception?
so you agree with Gen. Jack D. Ripper, who made love to women but did not give them his essence?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67wKhddWu4
Precious bodily fluids! Sterling Hayden's finest moment.
It's closely related to his Precious Bodily Essence a few moments later. I had to capture the audio
https://audio.pwfm.tech/essence.mp3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67wKhddWu4
I am not defending masturbation. I am treating it like it exists and is meaningful. I am going over its history, and the contributions of one person who turned the tide.
also I could not find THAT segment on YouTube. I only found it on Facebook, so I had to capture the audio. However, the "precious bodily fluid" thing applies to westernized Taoist ideas about sex as well as Gen. Ripper, who guards his manly vitality — and pushes the button, so to say
I harumphed.
Does that count?
I'm not sure if it promotes masturbation, but it's certainly barbaric, re circumcision. And if it does, it's certainly the opposite of what they intended. Taking away eggs and bacon and replacing them with grains to "dull the senses" is so puritanically ridiculous, of course they'd want to chop off sensitive parts of baby boys.
Thankfully, my husband nor my son were mutilated as infants.
---wow, I can't type tonight. I give up. lol
Monky what is your source on that? I take circumcision as being for a different purpose
In the "ancient world" masturbation was not a "thing." It only becomes a "thing" around 1712. It is not referenced anywhere in scripture, old or new testaments. There is no religious basis for the masturbation prohibition. The objection is secular. Circumcision has many effects, the most notable of which is to sever the bond of trust between the mother and the boy, because the mother is supposed to protect him from that kind of pain, at that age.
How do you "haze" a week old infant? Or does this hazing happen as young men? And how is it hazing if they're all snipped? And how does it ID them if most American's have taken up the practice?
I'm more confused by your reply than I was by my nine typos. - okay, edit number one. lmao! Mercury Retro, I suppose.
And I'm sorry, but I don't have the time to watch your linked video right now. I hope it's not pro-circ. I assume it's not.
I know what they do and why they do it, so typing all that wasn't necessary. Unlike most, I did my research.
I still don't classify it as hazing...
Only torture and permanent mutilation, sometimes leading to death.