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My comments. PHENOMENAL interview. Some key points were covered. The alleged virus genome is an “in silico” entity. It is nothing but a computer file filled with code, assembled out of short strands of code corresponding to short strands of nucleic acid found in a cell culture experiment. The strands are the results of mixing extracts from humans with tissue, most commonly green monkey kidney cells. antibiotics (poisonous to kidney cells), and nutrients. This stew is allowed to brew, and is then mixed, including the cutting up of all nucleic acid segments into ones shorter than around 5-600 base pairs, translating into code, and loading into a computer program or two or more, and using software to do the assembly.

There is a deliberate attempt to call this “sequencing,” making it seem just like taking DNA from known organisms and breaking it down into ordered chains of adenine, cytosine, guanine, and thymine (A, C, G, T), the four basic genetic nucleic acids (RNA has uracil instead of thymine, and any which is in the mix is changed via an additive into thymine). Something made via assembling pieces whose origin is never established (unknown provenance), an entity which exists only in a computer and has never been shown to actually exist in nature, let alone shown to be pathogenic, is being presented as a real existing physical organism.

In fact, this computer-only entity is used as the basis for designing tests like the PCR which then are said to determine whether someone has ‘COVID” (or indeed anything else). This is done by providing the test with short segments of code which are alleged to come from this compute-only alleged entity. This has been a testing pandemic. And there is a history of creating stories about viruses and alleging that they account for sicknesses which are actually the result of toxic chemicals degrading our environment.

And people go along out of fear. And/or because they are invested in the idea that “i got sick with “COVID,” family members got it, friends got it….,” or because that’s what a celebrity they trust in says is true, or because they don’t trust their own understanding of physical reality at all (especially in regarding to health) and believe “experts,”…. For example, I had the experience of a decades-long friend attack me for being out of touch with modern science and not understanding that “experts” don’t need to do physical explorations, they can just use computers, and that all my friends who say otherwise (including the ones with solid science credentials) know nothing (he himself has never finished community college!). He is in charge of five (!) Facebook groups.

I sure hope that this video and the book which Doctors Mark and Sam Bailey have released can help widen true understanding and push back the night of know nothingness. Cockroaches scurry off once the lights are turned on.

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That's a great comment in and of itself.

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Certainly can't be expecting virologists to admit any of this.

It'd be like the Pope saying that there's no God.

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Or admit he is fallible.

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Nice interview. Yes, while the latin terms, "in vivo" (in a living organism,) and "in vitro" (basically, in a glass test tube, outside of a living organism) are traditional biological laboratory terms, "in silico" is a non-biological term arising from the concept of "on a computer chip" (made from silicon) coined to sound similar to the existing familiar biological terms, but which is defined as "in or on a computer : done or produced by using computer software or simulation" (Merriam-Webster.)

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I am grateful for the contributions you both are making and have been making to navigating the confusion and corruption of these times. You have both given me so much through pursuing mental clarity, with an openhearted steadiness and determination. All of what Eric says here at the start of the interview in appreciation for Mark, I could also extend to him as appreciations for the way he has contributed over the past few years.

Many people like me are with you both. I hope our support through giving you our attention, financial support and love are fuel for your work. Thank You

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You guys are a blessing. Thanks again to the pair of you.

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Your interviewing style, Eric, is as good as enjoying a steamy cup of organic hot chocolate.

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Great explanation of in silico modeling and sequencing.

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Gu in short, is the ancient Chinese symbol for extreme pathological yin. It represents darkness, poison, betrayal, black magic, backstabbing murder and in medical terms, progressive organ decay accompanied by tortuous pain and insanity. Since the beginning of Chinese writing 3,500 years ago, the Chinese pictogram portrayed three worms squirming in a vessel. The symbol represents the widespread ancient practice of "black alchemy." Many traditional medical texts define Gu as the verminous manifestation of evil and disease that appears when a wide variety of toxic worms or substances are locked into a vessel, where they naturally become each others prey. After a period of several months, only one worm/ snake remains, which is said to contain the vicious and toxic potential of all the others and used to poison the population in order to take control of their personal property. Therefore, according to Classical Chinese Medicine, a Gu syndrome can be classified as an early example of biological warfare.

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Most people think of it as the product of an intentionally-made weapon rather than anything involving a lifestyle choice.

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Thanks, Eric and Mark. I need to look into the history of germ theory. In the meantime, are there any microorganisms that have been proven to cause disease? For example, those found in areas with poor sanitation? If not, what is the purpose of the immune system? Thanks!

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You will not find a transmission study anywhere that shows it's possible. Every time it's attempted, they come up empty handed. Rosenau (JAMA, 1919) is the most famous, and there are many over the decades.

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Thanks. Maybe I need to dig into the definition of "transmission."

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you are well familiar with it. It would be covered by "walking past someone in Walmart, and they make you sick," per the functionality of social distancing apps. It's not about the mechanical delivery of a toxin of any kind through direct injection or application (regardless of the origin of the toxin, that's a chemical weapon). Transmission means that a "virus" can "jump across the sea" and sicken another country; or that you being near a sick person makes you sick; and that is it.

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So it doesn't include, for example, exposure to fecal matter from another person? I'm just trying to pin down what is being referred to.

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What do you mean by "exposure to"? Walk past, eat, swim in, touch, inhale dust of? And what disease are you talking about? What about exposure to one's own shit?

Transmission experiments include things like inoculating the healthy person with the mucous of the sick person; breathing into the mouth of the healthy person; etc. None of these methods have been shown to spread disease. For each experiment you must go to the methods section, then the conclusion.

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Got it. Thanks, Eric. This is really helpful.

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At one point the narrative did attempt to bring in fecal transmission. There were reports in 2020 of testing sewage -- positive tests of RAW SEWAGE meant that people were shedding 'the virus' in their stool! An excellent example of non-isolation! An article in Environmental Research suggested that we keep an eye on emerging contaminated water-to-human transmission....

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If one is speaking of 'viral infection' the 'infectious disease epidemiology' defines horizontal transmission (person-to-person or surface-to-person) and vertical transmission (example: mother-to-baby through breastmilk or even gestation.) The fear of person-to-person transmission was used to sell masking and social distancing. The fear of surface-to-person transmission was used to increase hygiene measures (i.e., spraying chemicals or applying chemicals directly to one's skin.) A third type of transmission was also seized upon: zoonotic -- where a pathogen 'jumps' species, which is the bat-from-the-market narrative. A brilliant-tyrannical irony: the grant money available for fraudulent measures to be mandated in institutions around the world also threw in more than a little extra for wi-fi installations and wireless technologies, which are the NEW exposures that exacerbate today's already poisoned people with increasing microwave densities.

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If you are interested in learning more about me:

www.middleworldalliance.org

www.shamanicsoulhealing.com

I'm currently living in Mexico since 2021. I practiced Classical Chinese Medicine and acupuncture in the Hudson Valley for over 20 years. I might also add that I did not close my practice at anytime in 2020 and effectively treated patients within the paradigm of Classical Chinese medicine. I'm still heartbroken that my colleagues abandoned their patients and medicine so easily and and fell lockstep with the "official reality." They ignored and discarded 3,000 years of wisdom and data points that clearly indicated otherwise.

Eric, I've been a big fan since you began at The Chronogram and follow PWFM shows regularly. I deeply appreciate your work.

I think ancient wisdom is relevant to modern disease and the strange times we are living in. I think your listeners might benefit from hearing my perspective as we collectively question and wrestle with the dominant medical paradigm and their applied philosophies.

If you'd like, we can have a phone conversation.

Heidi Pilar Harding, M.S., L.Ac.

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ALL medicine is applied philosophy. What we are experiencing now is the breakdown of the story we call, biomedicine. We desperately need authentic paradigms to describe the very REAL physical, emotional, and spiritual suffering of our times. Eric's discussion with Dr. Baily scratches the surface of the fraudulent philosophy and dominant paradigm of western medicine, but it fails to acknowledge the genuine suffering and true origins of suffering for what the story makers have branded, and marketed to us as covid and the covid injections. Perhaps it will take a medical anthropologist to accurately report the whole story in a way that makes sense to people's very real suffering.

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You are most surely welcome to elaborate on your topic, since you seem to know more about it than I do.

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Thanks for being curious. The sinology does not specify.

Classical Chinese Medicine is its own complete system of medicine. It is not allopathic medicine as you stated. It has its own worldview, art of diagnosis and treatment methods.

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Great interview, thank you Eric. Yes, I recall Drosten (in his paper) stated this "new" disease resembled SARS based on social media posts. And this is why they constructed the primers (based on SARS) without having isolated the virus. lol

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Great interview...what about that PREP drug...where people are told to take this drug BEFORE they hook up with a sexual partner so they don't get AIDs. Think about all the harm that's being done with these new drugs. I understand that AZT's toxicity has been decreased so that people can live longer taking the drug, thinking they need to take it all their lives to keep the virus from becoming full blown AIDS, but they are still told that AIDS will eventually kill them and eventually the AZT cocktail will do just that and the death will be blamed on AIDs. Looking forward to your 40th anniversary AIDs program, Eric.

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HIV never isolated or proven to cause AIDS either. Another scam. In gay community, promiscous men could have sex 20 + times over weekend - amazing studs! The'd use popper drugs, not sleep, or eat, use other drugs to stay awake and also be taking doses of antibiotics permanently to ward off bacterial probs with any anal injuries. They also all had been offered a HepB vaccine too. Hmmmm? Africans didn't have openly gay community and AIDS didn't just affect men. Malnutrition and other illnesses will lower body defences too. They all too got various jabs prior too. In Africa, they blamed green monkeys. Sex with a monkey? No one proved to infect anyone else.

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Yes. I know, but they are still making these meds and gay men are buying into the narrative. When I went to South Africa I learned that way too many people were tested and told they had AIDS. But most people were not sick if they had access to clean water and good food. Lucky for them, AZT was not as readily available there. There is a lot off push back on the narrative that the illnesses attributed to AIDs were caused by lifestyle choice...as you mention, doing poppers many times a day and having anal sex many times a day with lots of partners, as well as doing meth, coke and other drugs to party. When I mentioned it to a friend whose professor is gay and tested positive for AIDS, she got angry saying I was blaming the disease on the patient. I asked her if her professor was sick and she said no because he has been taking the cocktail and it's kept him from getting ill. She did not want to hear that the test is bogus, that the virus has never been isolated and shown to be contagious and that the medicines/cocktail might eventually make him sick after which his illness would be blamed on HIV.

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Plenty of hetero people are falling for prep drugs. They think this is just a thing they should do

No illness no infection no claim of infection but very serious medicine.

See Rebecca Culshaw Smith

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That makes sense. I hear the commercials on TV are constant, but they are usually aimed at same sex partners. But I can see how young hetero people might think they are a good thing and protect them from the dreaded AIDs that they completely believe in..

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Well, I believed too, way back in my day. Was only by researching covid, I discovered John Rappoport, Perth Group, etc. HIV and AIDS was far more scary to me then than Covid was and I'm now an at risk old woman! Was a real shock to know the truth. Irony of having supposed antibodies, which they tell us if are vaccinated for whatever, we are protected, but for AIDS, if you have them, you are HIV+ and require immediate expensive treatment.

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I got tested for HIV in the late 80s but even then I was researching and not completely buying the narrative. I had a book called by Dr. Alan Cantwell called AIDs and the doctors of Death (that I still have somewhere) that proposed that HIV was manmade and spread through the Hep B vaccinations and was not spread by gay people or intravenous drug users. Similar to the lab leak narrative today. It was not until covid that I learned about the questions around germ theory and virology then it all clicked into place and become clear. I too am a senior (73 year old) woman but I was never afraid of the covid narrative. Somehow I knew it was bogus.

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