The newspaper most notorious for covering up dioxin — which went so far as to claim exposure is as safe as going on vacation and catching a few rays — is calling for dioxin testing in East Palestine
Praying for this Country & The World! The answer is to DEFUND these useless Agencies and get ACCOUNTABLILITY for these Crimes Against Humanity! Praying for individuals with Integrity and love of Humanity to fight in this war of evil versus Team Humanity! God Bless You & Your Efforts!
The editorial does not specify how the testing should be done, and thus playing the EPA's game, the one you shredded so well, Eric. Just thought i'd mention.
thank you eric- you are doing a fine job reporting and i send it around to a few 100 people- but some people seem to think that this is a psyop- and refuse to believe it. I'd like to offer them a plane ticket to East Palestine- might change their attitude.
Second, the E.P.A. needs to establish federally funded medical monitoring for everyone along the plume. Even those who appear healthy now should be offered baseline testing.
THIRD (or first?), someone (dept. agriculture? NOAA?) should consider the plume, characteristics and weather impact of deposition, and begin longer term monitoring of (AA spectroscopy?) of the fat content from food products from PA, NY, elsewhere along the plume.
First, I understand the regional nature of the EPA, usually organized by state, except CA where there are multiple regional authorities. I know the Illinois EPA used to allow, what did they call it, deviations maybe, so that high sulfur Illinois coal could be burned in Illinois. Sure, it could produce H2SO4 and acid rain, but the rain would fall in Indiana or Ohio. From East Palestine, the rain would fall in OH or NY.
Second, Dioxins are forever chemicals, but are thought to take years to, first bioaccumulate, then to take their toll, in cancers and fertility problems, which in turn might take years to see from an epidemiology standpoint. First, from fish to animal feed to meat to milk, these would be where to look, in my humble opinion. But the time to begin would also be now, before the bio-concentration occurs, so an increase might be known over time.
Again, the danger is not limited to East Palatine, or Ohio, but also PA and NY, and anywhere food from these areas goes.
So why wouldn't the NY Times be interested? But only time, testing, and observation, will tell, before the problem is too far advanced to address. Denial of reality is the least effective defense.
The plot thickens: per Journalist Yoichi Shimatsu, the cars were unmarked and actually contained vinylidine chloride (1,1 Dichloroethene) bound for Edgewood chemical arsenal. These are precursors to chemical weapons. It explains the haste to conduct the "controlled burn" - national security types swoop in and order it to be burned, destroying the evidence. They made up the contents of vinyl chloride after the fact - so they didn't test for dioxin because they actually knew few dioxins would be found. It also explains the national media silence - all the mockingbirds were on order not to talk about it.
My chemistry is a bit old, but central to Shimatsu's claim is that the EPA detected Phosgene, which he says cannot be a byproduct of burning vinyl chloride. I'd want to verify the phosgene detection and run this buy a chemistry expert. He says that the chemicals had been stored at Madison, IL Dow production factory operating under the name spectrulite, and that the vinylidine choloride had been stored for decades and was a thorn in the EPA's side. He points out the NS Conway rail yard had no specialized facility for switching chemical cars and that this shipment seemed to be unusual - so as to dispose of the chemicals on behalf of the EPA's sepctrulite problem. Again - deserves fact-checking, but it's so detailed and specific there might be something to all this.
Is there a cheap way for a citizen (that was exposed to dioxin) to get a diagnostic to know how badly they were contaminated, does it show up in something as basic as a blood test ?
You are misunderstanding how the U.S. constitution works. It's a set of instructions for forming and managing a government, not the instructions themselves. EPA is valid under INTERSTATE COMMERCE clause.
US Constitution doesn't work, exactly. But not because it didn't include everything, but because what it did include is null and void for all intents and purposes (read it and you got to wonder why a supreme court is needed to "interpret" it).
You think the Monsatans and Bayers of the world cannot hijack state governments? What kind of reality do you live in, Roger? Are you aware of the history of such hijackings BEFORE the Interstate Commerce Act?
Enforced by WHOM, Roger? Since when has the state ever worked for anyone except the current ruling elite? It emerged in a general form about 7-8000 years ago, and the original states took several thousand years to gain control over even half the humans in their vicinity. The modern state emerged together with capital and capitalist social relations in late medieval England, this being the birth of capitalism via the Enclosures, which you can make all the apologies and excuses for, but they are the root of capitalism, they continue to this day.
You've refused evidence that the vast majority of humans had nothing to do with the money system, didn't have to in order to obtain survival needs. So there is really little to dialog about when people don't even try to explain basic historical facts.
Given how this system works, Monsanto was likely one of the authors of the EPA agency designation - at least one or more special interest had a hand in what exists to "protect" the American people.
If we're to have a republic than the Articles of Confederation is a good starting point. Many of the states/colonies already had such articles in their individual constitutions. Under this at least we'd have some say in the rules and how things work. US Constitution was part of a coup that put us smack dab where we are today.
Lincoln's "Civil" War ended the move to resurrect the Articles and destroy any attempt to regain a decentralized form of governance (bottom up). I credit Lincoln with positioning the US into a full blown empire and that war he presided over was primarily about consolidating power into one municipality: District of Columbia pushing westward and beyond has been the mission ever since (today it's called Full Spectrum Dominance).
I'm not sure the extent to which freeing slaves was it's primary intent - in fact Britain had long before the US declared independence proclaimed an end to slavery in all its colonies. The oligarchic "leaders" of the "revolution" were against ending slavery.
Praying for this Country & The World! The answer is to DEFUND these useless Agencies and get ACCOUNTABLILITY for these Crimes Against Humanity! Praying for individuals with Integrity and love of Humanity to fight in this war of evil versus Team Humanity! God Bless You & Your Efforts!
The editorial does not specify how the testing should be done, and thus playing the EPA's game, the one you shredded so well, Eric. Just thought i'd mention.
NYT is a limited hangout.
It's guilty of blatant fraud...someone must have been on vacation to have this go out.
I thought the same thing.
thank you eric- you are doing a fine job reporting and i send it around to a few 100 people- but some people seem to think that this is a psyop- and refuse to believe it. I'd like to offer them a plane ticket to East Palestine- might change their attitude.
yep they can go lick the roof of a nearby building. For people without bodies, EVERYTHING is porno.
haha
Per article comments,
Second, the E.P.A. needs to establish federally funded medical monitoring for everyone along the plume. Even those who appear healthy now should be offered baseline testing.
THIRD (or first?), someone (dept. agriculture? NOAA?) should consider the plume, characteristics and weather impact of deposition, and begin longer term monitoring of (AA spectroscopy?) of the fat content from food products from PA, NY, elsewhere along the plume.
First, I understand the regional nature of the EPA, usually organized by state, except CA where there are multiple regional authorities. I know the Illinois EPA used to allow, what did they call it, deviations maybe, so that high sulfur Illinois coal could be burned in Illinois. Sure, it could produce H2SO4 and acid rain, but the rain would fall in Indiana or Ohio. From East Palestine, the rain would fall in OH or NY.
Second, Dioxins are forever chemicals, but are thought to take years to, first bioaccumulate, then to take their toll, in cancers and fertility problems, which in turn might take years to see from an epidemiology standpoint. First, from fish to animal feed to meat to milk, these would be where to look, in my humble opinion. But the time to begin would also be now, before the bio-concentration occurs, so an increase might be known over time.
Again, the danger is not limited to East Palatine, or Ohio, but also PA and NY, and anywhere food from these areas goes.
So why wouldn't the NY Times be interested? But only time, testing, and observation, will tell, before the problem is too far advanced to address. Denial of reality is the least effective defense.
The plot thickens: per Journalist Yoichi Shimatsu, the cars were unmarked and actually contained vinylidine chloride (1,1 Dichloroethene) bound for Edgewood chemical arsenal. These are precursors to chemical weapons. It explains the haste to conduct the "controlled burn" - national security types swoop in and order it to be burned, destroying the evidence. They made up the contents of vinyl chloride after the fact - so they didn't test for dioxin because they actually knew few dioxins would be found. It also explains the national media silence - all the mockingbirds were on order not to talk about it.
In the words of Pres. Merkin Muffley, how do you know all of this?
Both Shimatsu and Rense have intelligence connections so could be disinfo - but it's a report that deserves analysis and Shimatsu has been correct in the past when he investigated the Japan Sarin attacks in the 1990's and when he investigated the Panama Papers: https://rense.com/general97/chemical-weaponry-destined-for-ukraine-ignited-in-east-palestine.php
My chemistry is a bit old, but central to Shimatsu's claim is that the EPA detected Phosgene, which he says cannot be a byproduct of burning vinyl chloride. I'd want to verify the phosgene detection and run this buy a chemistry expert. He says that the chemicals had been stored at Madison, IL Dow production factory operating under the name spectrulite, and that the vinylidine choloride had been stored for decades and was a thorn in the EPA's side. He points out the NS Conway rail yard had no specialized facility for switching chemical cars and that this shipment seemed to be unusual - so as to dispose of the chemicals on behalf of the EPA's sepctrulite problem. Again - deserves fact-checking, but it's so detailed and specific there might be something to all this.
Is there a cheap way for a citizen (that was exposed to dioxin) to get a diagnostic to know how badly they were contaminated, does it show up in something as basic as a blood test ?
short answer, no. Dioxin contamination is measured in parts per trillion in blood adipose tissue. What must be tested is THE ENVIRONMENT.
You are misunderstanding how the U.S. constitution works. It's a set of instructions for forming and managing a government, not the instructions themselves. EPA is valid under INTERSTATE COMMERCE clause.
US Constitution doesn't work, exactly. But not because it didn't include everything, but because what it did include is null and void for all intents and purposes (read it and you got to wonder why a supreme court is needed to "interpret" it).
You think the Monsatans and Bayers of the world cannot hijack state governments? What kind of reality do you live in, Roger? Are you aware of the history of such hijackings BEFORE the Interstate Commerce Act?
Enforced by WHOM, Roger? Since when has the state ever worked for anyone except the current ruling elite? It emerged in a general form about 7-8000 years ago, and the original states took several thousand years to gain control over even half the humans in their vicinity. The modern state emerged together with capital and capitalist social relations in late medieval England, this being the birth of capitalism via the Enclosures, which you can make all the apologies and excuses for, but they are the root of capitalism, they continue to this day.
You've refused evidence that the vast majority of humans had nothing to do with the money system, didn't have to in order to obtain survival needs. So there is really little to dialog about when people don't even try to explain basic historical facts.
Given how this system works, Monsanto was likely one of the authors of the EPA agency designation - at least one or more special interest had a hand in what exists to "protect" the American people.
If we're to have a republic than the Articles of Confederation is a good starting point. Many of the states/colonies already had such articles in their individual constitutions. Under this at least we'd have some say in the rules and how things work. US Constitution was part of a coup that put us smack dab where we are today.
Lincoln's "Civil" War ended the move to resurrect the Articles and destroy any attempt to regain a decentralized form of governance (bottom up). I credit Lincoln with positioning the US into a full blown empire and that war he presided over was primarily about consolidating power into one municipality: District of Columbia pushing westward and beyond has been the mission ever since (today it's called Full Spectrum Dominance).
I'm not sure the extent to which freeing slaves was it's primary intent - in fact Britain had long before the US declared independence proclaimed an end to slavery in all its colonies. The oligarchic "leaders" of the "revolution" were against ending slavery.