It's not just what was in the tanker cars. It's what happens when they burn and combine. This may be the largest dioxin plume in world history. I know of no more serious of this kind release.
Dioxin exposure is not like arsenic. For adults, most who react will start to feel sick; it’s distinctly “flu like” as I’ve had this. Some will get rashes, which is about the slow death of their liver. The rash is an indication of systemic poisoning.
But due to our greater body weight, adults can handle a little more, for a while. What it does to adults is create a kind of time bomb; miscarriages; infertility; hormone disruption; cancers; three generations of genetic damage (I have all of this either firsthand or from the companies own documents).
Children can get extremely ill and die. Animals — pets and livestock — can be killed immediately, along with wildlife. The birds are all gone from the whole area. So the smaller one’s body, the more it acts like an acute poison rather than a long-term disruptor of every system. And we all already bear a body-burden of the stuff, measured in parts per trillion in blood adipose tissue.
Dioxin is a trace contaminant of other toxins, like Agent Orange and PCBs. So it rides along with them, and is also created in a burn situation. We are witnessing a worst case scenario. Thousands of tons (nine railroad cars of chlorinated chemicals) went up, and burned in proximity of other hydrocarbons (vegetables, wheat, motor oil, etc.) and so this turns the ordinary cargo into hazmat when they are burned together.
This is an extinction level kind of event. There are 125,000 farms in PA and OH. It will concentrate in the food and be shipped all over the world. The only potentially worse dioxin release in a single incident was the World Trade Center, and I don’t think it was bad, and much of that smoke blew out to see, adding to the background level in the oceans.
I live within 6 miles of disaster in New Waterford and have a rental home less than 500 feet from derailment. I've been worried about the fallout since day one and the particulate which is evident on my property. Heard this touched on briefly during first couple days. Had the EPA and CTEH and environmental firm at my property last Saturday checking for VOC'S. Had higher readings supposedly more than they had seen previously. In the 460 ppb range..I kept asking about particulate and was stated they aren't looking for that. Due to the "elevated" readings they pulled a drager tube looking for Vinyl Chloride with none detected. We have a town hall meeting tomorrow I plan to attend. Can you please educate me on how we detect or determine if Dioxin is present on our property or in our homes. I've worked in the chemical industry over 30 years and am familiar with air monitoring and gas detection equipment but have no idea how we find out if this poison is in our homes. Help us please get to the bottom of this disaster. Furthermore, how or what should I do to protect my young boys. I know your not a toxicologist but have much more information than this ignorant victim of Norfolk Southern and our supposed EPA.
The EPA representative who was at my property when I peppered her with questions knew I was aware of how bad this was and was right in asking about the particulate. She stated I need to keep my foot on the accelerator until I get the answers required.
Greatly atly appreciate you putting this out here for us to educate ourselves. We are not being told or informed about anything other than the air is safe "for what we are looking for" which is legalese for we work for Norfolk Southern and you people are screwed
Dioxin can be cleaned up in the soils and water with EM [effective microbes formula] already proven all over the world particularly in Japan, I use it on all gardening and compost operations and to clean our homestead of the toxic metals being sprayed on us all , it can be consumed by humans as well, cleaning the atmosphere is another story but it could be atmospherically sprayed as well .
Just sickening. I read briefly of this incident 2 days ago.... and just read this above Eric. I searched also just now and found a CNN article - "After a train derailment, Ohio residents are living the plot of a movie they helped make" - which goes into the movie made their and nearby about - you guessed it - a freight train collides with a tanker truck. Just a year ago. "White Noise" it is called.
Never once mentioned in it are Dioxins from Vinyl Chloride, and that CNN article states only 5 train cars contained vinyl chloride. Butyl acrylate is what the article more focuses on....briefly at that. How many people downwind did it or will it effect? For how long? Did the weather balloon stories in the USA block all other news?
So easily tens of thousands of people were directly exposed by the airborne chemical plume and I daresay that it may well have been even more once future research reveals how truly widespread the plume travelled as it dispersed at lower amounts much farther than initial tracking could determine. Then throw in thousands from water poisoning also likely to become higher too. Here's a plume animation map to get you started: https://aircocalc-www.createlab.org/pardumps/plumeviz/experiments/video/ohio-train-fire/20230206.mp4 I have more maps but it's late and I got to go to bed now..
Would it be possible to access this map more zoomed out and up to date ? Living in Toronto and would like to assess how bad it could affect us up north. Thanks
sorry that's as far as the animation extends both spatially and time span. I haven't seen any other platforms that charted the plume's vectoring besides this one. Given that the last vector was northerly and that the prevailing winds of the jet stream are typically from west to east it is certainly feasible that Toronto may have received a diminished fall-out later from the plume but there really is no way for me to explore that at this time. Nevertheless, Toronto's exposure had to much, much less just because there would have been a lot more dispersion before any smaller fall-out strands reached Toronto. Best.
Update so I did find an image of particulate distribution on Feb 8th two days after the controlled release but I haven't been able to follow-up any further but I wanted to share it with you: https://twitter.com/HallidayJ12/status/1626692130944045071?s=20
WOW of a story. NOTHING about this in the world at large. Once again, Eric, you do what you've been doing for 40 years, exposing the toxic chemical nightmare we live in.
It would appear that the CDC "edited the toxicology profile for vinyl chloride, massively increasing the lethal exposure level from 100PPM to 100,000PPM and removing information about how the chemical affects children, just two weeks before the train derailment in East Palestine"
Dioxin is the source of the diseases the Veterans Administration has acknowledged as Agent Orange presumptive caused. For those unfamiliar : Operation Ranch Hand during the Vietnam war, sprayed millions of gallons of herbacides onto the countryside.
The presumptive disease list from the V. A. Is as follows:
* AL Amyloidosis
* Chronic B-cell Leukemias
* Chloracne
* Diabetes Mellitus Type 2
* Hodgkin’s Disease
* Ischemic Heart Disease
* Multiple Myeloma
* Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma
* Parkinson’s Disease
* Peripheral Neuropathy, Early- Onset
* Porphyria Cutanea Tarda
* Prostate Cancer
* Respiratory Cancers
* Soft Tissue Sarcomas
* Bladder cancer
* Hypothyroidism
* Parkinsonism
And dioxin was only a trace contaminant in the Agent Orange defoliant!
👏👏👏💯✔ and thank you for including the visual on the affects of dioxin dispersal through the waterways. That is what's needed for people to grasp the full impact of what has occurred.
I'd suggest perhaps an overlay with a map of the farming land, organic or otherwise. To show the long term effects of this "just a train crash, and they happen all the time".😐🤨🤔😑
Oh and the little tidbit of legislation allowing government to purchase "toxic or polluted" land....🤔🤔😐
This has been orchestrated by the cabal with help from the gov. Combined with the effects of the vaccine (destroying the immune system) this plume of toxic dust will irreversible affect tens if not hundreds of millions of people.
Dig this Eric, & I'm NOT saying it's biochemically accurate, because I'm not a biochemist, but those planar molecules, especially if they possess highly-reactive end-constituents... (free radicals able to affect or strip-away valence electrons) ...& if they can slide between rungs of DNA lattice, between base pairs...could these be a source-process of genetic mutations ?
Well, while I have never read conclusively that dioxin-like compounds are genotoxic, they are considered teratogenic. They cause many kinds of birth defects.
We have covered a lot of ground. I take a conservative approach to reporting; I say what I know. However, I have not read the entire reevaluation of the toxicity of dioxin released circa 1992 -- but I have it in my document vault. It is very probably genotoxic though I settled on the language "causes birth defects" and multigenerational effects. Mostly, the problem is hormone disruption.
There is still a high rate of birth defects in Vietnam, as well as in Laos and Cambodia, which were also heavily sprayed with Agent Orange during the Vietnam War. The North Vietnamese Army (the Viet Cong) used foot trails through the rainforest in all those countries in their efforts to evade the US Army; the US Army's response was to do its best to destroy the rainforest, using Agent Orange as a defoliant, so that the Viet Cong would have nowhere to hide. American soldiers were often exposed to enormous amounts of Agent Orange, too.
I know all about it. My brother served a year in the US Army in 'Nam, got sprayed with the Agent. Health impaired the rest of his life, his second daughter born without plastic sheathing to her sensory nerves, meaning the totally intact senses could not communicate with the totally intact brain. Plus general health problems. Did not survive to her 9th birthday. Quite a few such cases to people who were Vietnam vets or exposed to dioxin in other circumstances.
God, how horrible! I don't have any relatives who experienced the Vietnam War, but I've read a fair amount about it. I wonder what they teach kids about the War in American schools these days (if anything.)
Does you brother get any help from the VA in any way, (including monetary compensation, if there's nothing they can do to help him physically) due to his having been physically injured by the Agent?
By "plastic sheathing" are you referring to the myelin sheath, which is necessary to protect nerves?
The sheath which not only protects the nerves, but ensures that signals traveling along them don't just get dissipated into whatever is surrounding them, like insulation around wires.
Damage to children was never acknowledged by the US government. Only a couple of specific conditions were deemed to render an individual eligible for assistance. My brother died almost 26 years ago.
American schools teach in general (per texts used most commonly) that the war was an effort by the US government to help an ally repel aggression, but an effort which went awry, with bad policies sapping public support. Never mind that the US government violated the 1954 Geneva Agreement to have nation-wide elections in 1956, throughout the single Vietnam, a French colony at that point, temporarily divided into a zone controlled by the Viet Minh in the North and the French backed colonial authorities in the South. President Eisenhower in his autobiography stated the US got the authorities in the South to back out and declare independence because the US government knew Ho Chi Minh would win 80% of the vote in a fair election and the US could not abide that, as it would legitimate a "communist" regime. The Pentagon Papers back that up. The Saigon regime was never legally constituted. US aid was illegal, meant to sustain a US puppet regime.
Exactly. I'm so sorry your brother went through Hell, sorry about his daughter, sorry he died young (I assume he did, if he died 26 years ago), sorry for your own trauma and grief due to your being close to him and his terrible suffering.
CLARIFICATION ON THE TOXICITY ISSUE TO ADULTS
Dioxin exposure is not like arsenic. For adults, most who react will start to feel sick; it’s distinctly “flu like” as I’ve had this. Some will get rashes, which is about the slow death of their liver. The rash is an indication of systemic poisoning.
But due to our greater body weight, adults can handle a little more, for a while. What it does to adults is create a kind of time bomb; miscarriages; infertility; hormone disruption; cancers; three generations of genetic damage (I have all of this either firsthand or from the companies own documents).
Children can get extremely ill and die. Animals — pets and livestock — can be killed immediately, along with wildlife. The birds are all gone from the whole area. So the smaller one’s body, the more it acts like an acute poison rather than a long-term disruptor of every system. And we all already bear a body-burden of the stuff, measured in parts per trillion in blood adipose tissue.
Dioxin is a trace contaminant of other toxins, like Agent Orange and PCBs. So it rides along with them, and is also created in a burn situation. We are witnessing a worst case scenario. Thousands of tons (nine railroad cars of chlorinated chemicals) went up, and burned in proximity of other hydrocarbons (vegetables, wheat, motor oil, etc.) and so this turns the ordinary cargo into hazmat when they are burned together.
This is an extinction level kind of event. There are 125,000 farms in PA and OH. It will concentrate in the food and be shipped all over the world. The only potentially worse dioxin release in a single incident was the World Trade Center, and I don’t think it was bad, and much of that smoke blew out to see, adding to the background level in the oceans.
Exceptional work, Eric. Hoping it is read and understood widely. I will share.
I live within 6 miles of disaster in New Waterford and have a rental home less than 500 feet from derailment. I've been worried about the fallout since day one and the particulate which is evident on my property. Heard this touched on briefly during first couple days. Had the EPA and CTEH and environmental firm at my property last Saturday checking for VOC'S. Had higher readings supposedly more than they had seen previously. In the 460 ppb range..I kept asking about particulate and was stated they aren't looking for that. Due to the "elevated" readings they pulled a drager tube looking for Vinyl Chloride with none detected. We have a town hall meeting tomorrow I plan to attend. Can you please educate me on how we detect or determine if Dioxin is present on our property or in our homes. I've worked in the chemical industry over 30 years and am familiar with air monitoring and gas detection equipment but have no idea how we find out if this poison is in our homes. Help us please get to the bottom of this disaster. Furthermore, how or what should I do to protect my young boys. I know your not a toxicologist but have much more information than this ignorant victim of Norfolk Southern and our supposed EPA.
The EPA representative who was at my property when I peppered her with questions knew I was aware of how bad this was and was right in asking about the particulate. She stated I need to keep my foot on the accelerator until I get the answers required.
Greatly atly appreciate you putting this out here for us to educate ourselves. We are not being told or informed about anything other than the air is safe "for what we are looking for" which is legalese for we work for Norfolk Southern and you people are screwed
Make sure you read Thomas Guitar man's comments below on how to deal with it. 👇
Please get the Kids & yourself out of there for good, ASAP!!.. Cut your losses!!.. But, be ready to sue ALL those schmucks!!-
Dioxin can be cleaned up in the soils and water with EM [effective microbes formula] already proven all over the world particularly in Japan, I use it on all gardening and compost operations and to clean our homestead of the toxic metals being sprayed on us all , it can be consumed by humans as well, cleaning the atmosphere is another story but it could be atmospherically sprayed as well .
is this a form of fungi? Like Mycelium?
Its a combination of beneficial soil bacteria, yeasts and fungi n but particular strains
Just sickening. I read briefly of this incident 2 days ago.... and just read this above Eric. I searched also just now and found a CNN article - "After a train derailment, Ohio residents are living the plot of a movie they helped make" - which goes into the movie made their and nearby about - you guessed it - a freight train collides with a tanker truck. Just a year ago. "White Noise" it is called.
Never once mentioned in it are Dioxins from Vinyl Chloride, and that CNN article states only 5 train cars contained vinyl chloride. Butyl acrylate is what the article more focuses on....briefly at that. How many people downwind did it or will it effect? For how long? Did the weather balloon stories in the USA block all other news?
So easily tens of thousands of people were directly exposed by the airborne chemical plume and I daresay that it may well have been even more once future research reveals how truly widespread the plume travelled as it dispersed at lower amounts much farther than initial tracking could determine. Then throw in thousands from water poisoning also likely to become higher too. Here's a plume animation map to get you started: https://aircocalc-www.createlab.org/pardumps/plumeviz/experiments/video/ohio-train-fire/20230206.mp4 I have more maps but it's late and I got to go to bed now..
Would it be possible to access this map more zoomed out and up to date ? Living in Toronto and would like to assess how bad it could affect us up north. Thanks
sorry that's as far as the animation extends both spatially and time span. I haven't seen any other platforms that charted the plume's vectoring besides this one. Given that the last vector was northerly and that the prevailing winds of the jet stream are typically from west to east it is certainly feasible that Toronto may have received a diminished fall-out later from the plume but there really is no way for me to explore that at this time. Nevertheless, Toronto's exposure had to much, much less just because there would have been a lot more dispersion before any smaller fall-out strands reached Toronto. Best.
Update so I did find an image of particulate distribution on Feb 8th two days after the controlled release but I haven't been able to follow-up any further but I wanted to share it with you: https://twitter.com/HallidayJ12/status/1626692130944045071?s=20
It was a reply tweet to a tweet from a person in Guelph Canada who noticed a strange substance ccovering his car here: https://twitter.com/bhohner/status/1626253173299068932?s=20
Found this too but haven't had time to read nor analyze any of this stuff yet sorry: https://www.forbes.com/sites/marshallshepherd/2023/02/18/tracking-unidentified-balloons-and--a-train-derailment-smoke-plumewhat-is-hysplit/?sh=79803320561e
Thank you for this piece, Eric.
WOW of a story. NOTHING about this in the world at large. Once again, Eric, you do what you've been doing for 40 years, exposing the toxic chemical nightmare we live in.
We All Live In Bhopal...
https://www.fifthestate.org/319-winter-1985/we-all-live-in-bhopal/
It would appear that the CDC "edited the toxicology profile for vinyl chloride, massively increasing the lethal exposure level from 100PPM to 100,000PPM and removing information about how the chemical affects children, just two weeks before the train derailment in East Palestine"
https://newspunch.com/inside-job-cdc-changed-toxicity-info-on-vinyl-chloride-days-before-derailment/
Dioxin is the source of the diseases the Veterans Administration has acknowledged as Agent Orange presumptive caused. For those unfamiliar : Operation Ranch Hand during the Vietnam war, sprayed millions of gallons of herbacides onto the countryside.
The presumptive disease list from the V. A. Is as follows:
* AL Amyloidosis
* Chronic B-cell Leukemias
* Chloracne
* Diabetes Mellitus Type 2
* Hodgkin’s Disease
* Ischemic Heart Disease
* Multiple Myeloma
* Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma
* Parkinson’s Disease
* Peripheral Neuropathy, Early- Onset
* Porphyria Cutanea Tarda
* Prostate Cancer
* Respiratory Cancers
* Soft Tissue Sarcomas
* Bladder cancer
* Hypothyroidism
* Parkinsonism
And dioxin was only a trace contaminant in the Agent Orange defoliant!
There was also a derailment in SC and TX and not a peep about this either. They are going to depopulate any way they can.
Eric, thank you for the thorough coverage. I can't stop thinking about this. It is horrific.
👏👏👏💯✔ and thank you for including the visual on the affects of dioxin dispersal through the waterways. That is what's needed for people to grasp the full impact of what has occurred.
I'd suggest perhaps an overlay with a map of the farming land, organic or otherwise. To show the long term effects of this "just a train crash, and they happen all the time".😐🤨🤔😑
Oh and the little tidbit of legislation allowing government to purchase "toxic or polluted" land....🤔🤔😐
After your radio program I suggest that you make this article free and easily accessible. It's way to important!
This has been orchestrated by the cabal with help from the gov. Combined with the effects of the vaccine (destroying the immune system) this plume of toxic dust will irreversible affect tens if not hundreds of millions of people.
Dig this Eric, & I'm NOT saying it's biochemically accurate, because I'm not a biochemist, but those planar molecules, especially if they possess highly-reactive end-constituents... (free radicals able to affect or strip-away valence electrons) ...& if they can slide between rungs of DNA lattice, between base pairs...could these be a source-process of genetic mutations ?
Well, while I have never read conclusively that dioxin-like compounds are genotoxic, they are considered teratogenic. They cause many kinds of birth defects.
We have covered a lot of ground. I take a conservative approach to reporting; I say what I know. However, I have not read the entire reevaluation of the toxicity of dioxin released circa 1992 -- but I have it in my document vault. It is very probably genotoxic though I settled on the language "causes birth defects" and multigenerational effects. Mostly, the problem is hormone disruption.
What Eric says about birth defects! Numerous birth defects have shown up in children of Vietnam War vets, and people exposed to dioxin elsewhere.
There is still a high rate of birth defects in Vietnam, as well as in Laos and Cambodia, which were also heavily sprayed with Agent Orange during the Vietnam War. The North Vietnamese Army (the Viet Cong) used foot trails through the rainforest in all those countries in their efforts to evade the US Army; the US Army's response was to do its best to destroy the rainforest, using Agent Orange as a defoliant, so that the Viet Cong would have nowhere to hide. American soldiers were often exposed to enormous amounts of Agent Orange, too.
I know all about it. My brother served a year in the US Army in 'Nam, got sprayed with the Agent. Health impaired the rest of his life, his second daughter born without plastic sheathing to her sensory nerves, meaning the totally intact senses could not communicate with the totally intact brain. Plus general health problems. Did not survive to her 9th birthday. Quite a few such cases to people who were Vietnam vets or exposed to dioxin in other circumstances.
God, how horrible! I don't have any relatives who experienced the Vietnam War, but I've read a fair amount about it. I wonder what they teach kids about the War in American schools these days (if anything.)
Does you brother get any help from the VA in any way, (including monetary compensation, if there's nothing they can do to help him physically) due to his having been physically injured by the Agent?
By "plastic sheathing" are you referring to the myelin sheath, which is necessary to protect nerves?
The sheath which not only protects the nerves, but ensures that signals traveling along them don't just get dissipated into whatever is surrounding them, like insulation around wires.
Damage to children was never acknowledged by the US government. Only a couple of specific conditions were deemed to render an individual eligible for assistance. My brother died almost 26 years ago.
American schools teach in general (per texts used most commonly) that the war was an effort by the US government to help an ally repel aggression, but an effort which went awry, with bad policies sapping public support. Never mind that the US government violated the 1954 Geneva Agreement to have nation-wide elections in 1956, throughout the single Vietnam, a French colony at that point, temporarily divided into a zone controlled by the Viet Minh in the North and the French backed colonial authorities in the South. President Eisenhower in his autobiography stated the US got the authorities in the South to back out and declare independence because the US government knew Ho Chi Minh would win 80% of the vote in a fair election and the US could not abide that, as it would legitimate a "communist" regime. The Pentagon Papers back that up. The Saigon regime was never legally constituted. US aid was illegal, meant to sustain a US puppet regime.
Exactly. I'm so sorry your brother went through Hell, sorry about his daughter, sorry he died young (I assume he did, if he died 26 years ago), sorry for your own trauma and grief due to your being close to him and his terrible suffering.