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Strangely in this “safe-obsessed” world, I’m feeling a lot less safe than b4 the ridiculous obsession. It’s a considerably more deadly world.

I’ve gotten used to it.

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Thanks for doing the recommendations. I have not heard anybody mention Seveso, one of the largest and most studied TCDD releases, useful to compare and inform testing strategies of environment and health. For example, Seveso ground zero benchmark of 15.5–5477 μg/m2 – called Zone A – from which many residents were permanently evacuated within a month and the homes demolished and buried. There was high animal and plant mortality after the exposure and within 2 years 80k animals had been slaughtered to prevent people from eating them. Seems testing animals, eggs, milk, and any uncovered feed should be high on the list; also, residues on any winter garden produce, fruit trees and popular forage spots, i.e. morels in the area – see map at https://www.thegreatmorel.com/morel-sightings/. People in the entire test area that radiated out from the Seveso hotspot, to where readings tapered off, were told not to eat any local produce or chickens at all. I understand it rained and snowed since the Ohio burn-off, so would rooftop residue now be accumulating on the ground around gutters? What about testing source point storm water runoff? Does dioxin remain in septic systems that are then pumped out and deposited in settling ponds somewhere? I imagine you will probably get to health test recommendations? Any funds donated for health testing should go first to pregnant and nursing women. There is reference to US breast milk background level study in the research papers.

Also this from STAT News: “Federal health officials are pressing Congress to fund a new office tasked with tackling the fallout from environmental exposures. But amid the first major environmental disaster of its existence, the East Palestine, Ohio train derailment, the tiny department seems unsure what to do — or if it can do anything at all.” Huh? Sounds like they need some tasks to justify their desired funding. Has anybody asked them to provide all existing baseline data on background dioxin levels for starters?

Short overview of Seveso: https://journals.lww.com/epidem/fulltext/2006/11001/the_seveso_accident__a_prototype_of_environmental.192.aspx

Some studies through the decades

https://cerch.berkeley.edu/research-programs/seveso-womens-health-study

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6221983/

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080728215326.htm

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412018313928?via%3Dihub#s0010

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412018330757

https://www.jstor.org/stable/4532521

According to the studies, NIH and CDC contributed to the Seveso research and must be sitting on data. Are they stepping up to the plate in E. Palestine?

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Thank you so much for raising my awareness of these chemicals ... Now I know the entire Gulf Coast Region was exposed to Dioxins for 2 months when BP burned the Rig ...we had a local Dr Michael Robicheaux who set up a Clinic in a home on his property and detoxed ( Sauna , supplements following the Clear Body Clear Mind protocol )...saving over 100 poisoned victims ...Dr Mike helped all the locals for months ... Dr Mike was very perplexed in his research ... in his office were stacks and stacks of papers , articles, and journals he was searching for answers ... he kept saying " The more I research the closest thing I can come up with is AGENT ORANGE... but I'm not sure what the connection is" ...Eric you have given me this connection ... when they burned the Deep Water Horizon Situ Burn ... TCDD / AGENT ORANGE was released on the population of the Gulf Region ... and no body said one word ... what a cover up !! Thank you Eric !!

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Short, concise, on target. Thank you!! Disturbing how some "freedom" people really don't get it.

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I've got it. Thank you Cindy. It's really good. Concise, detailed and really on Target. I'm putting it up on LinkedIn now.

Thanks so much

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I would think the priority is to implement your suggested testing strategy quickly -- however it needs to happen -- before more precious time goes by. Texas A&M is doing independent air samples and now asking about dioxin, so that's good, but they need to refocus on soil and surfaces, according to my understanding of your work. They seem to be focused on checking EPAs figures. Either way I hope organizers are making a massive contact list of residents, farmers, allies, influencers, etc. They'll need it to push whatever strategy they decide on. Does anybody have a strategic plan? Who is taking the lead? E Palestine Justice? RVO? I have not seen a comprehensive grassroots website tracking all the balls in the air and taking names. I have a lot of questions and according to comments on various social media sites, so do a bunch of other people. People who are engaging and asking questions are a resource when it comes to grassroots organizing.

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The Handling of this Disaster is Crimes Against Humanity! Thank you Eric for all your expertise! God Bless You & Your Efforts!

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Gregory Lovett directed the movie relating to the military burn pit health issues and lack of VA assistance for those issues which occur years later. I wonder if he would be a good person to interview for your podcast and raise awareness of the seriousness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PyfiP3h2Qw

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Eric - Since we know some of these toxins can accumulate in the fatty tissue of animals (and humans eating them), may I suggest that farmers test the fatty tissue of their livestock on an ongoing basis over the next year or longer (once a month)? Milk, cream, cheese and butter from both dairy cattle and dairy goats, pork fat and egg yolks. Due to the action of deuterium, both belly and back fat should be tested with pigs.

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Let me try it because I am up on Google docs and that would be great. Thanks

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Cindy I just tried to download it it's all came up so do you want to download this and I said yes and then it downloaded it said download complete and I went to move it over to Bing according to what came up then and nothing showed up.

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Eric I can't open the download. Is there some other way to get this? I watched a few videos yesterday of the poor people over there doing their own testing in some horrid gloppy water that had come back from that dam that came over the top and I just felt so so very sad for them.

Thank you for everything you're doing. There's quite a bit going on and hopefully this will stabilize and there will come out of it at least a safety plan in all regards.

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