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Andy Kaufman via email —

The only truthful answer is that we do not know with scientific certainty. All we can point to is circumstantial and inferential evidence of toxicity and malnutrition. There are few, if any, scientific, controlled studies looking at this issue.

What we do know is what works to get people healthy and it doesn’t involve the cut, burn, poison model. It also doesn’t involve tons of supplements, technological devices, someone else doing it to you, or anything supernatural. Our bodies are meant to heal all on their own. It’s nature.

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*The commentaries are increasingly well written and thought provoking.

Thank you.

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I think the average co-morbidities in “Covid deaths” reported in April 2021 by the CDC was 2.6. At that same time CDC said 94% of the deaths had co-morbidities, leaving only 6% dying of Covid alone.

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By July 2020, it was 4.0 average comorbidities, which means underlying causes of death. The documentation is linked from the chronology.

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Hi Eric, this is what I have in my files. It must have been revised to reflect more accuracy after an initial report, or, maybe revised excluding influenza and pneumonia. I can’t account for the difference, just comparing what I saved off the CDC at the time. Interesting discrepancy.

When I saw the initial report I started posting and talking about it until I was blue in the face. Apologies, I misstated the date as 2021. This was 2020.

I have the screen shot I captured from the CDC site at the time. I can’t put the image here, but I can send it to you. Will put link below. This is what it said:

“Table 2. Deaths involving

coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza

reported to NCHS by place of

death, United States. Week ending

2/1/2020 to 8/22/2020.*

Comorbidities

Table 3 shows the types of health

conditions and contributing causes

mentioned in conjunction with deaths

involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID. 19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups. For data on comorbidities….”

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It's been nearly two years since I've been trying to explain the same to people that although, based on mortality rates by August, 2020, there was no "pandemic," the symptoms were real. Asking what caused/have been causing the symptoms was the next step. The answers are quite polymorphic, but they all point in the same direction.

Eventually, nearly three months ago, I started summarizing my findings and my conclusions on Substack. Here are quite a few brief, but relevant pieces:

On the failure of modern "medicine":

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-disaster-of-modern-medicine

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/compartmentalized-medicine-turns

On mass manipulation:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/what-can-be-done

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/stuck-between-fear-and-hope

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/asthma-and-traditional-vaccines-during

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-most-powerful-mode-of-manipulation

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/do-not-fall-for-false-hope

On the fallacy of saving lives:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-fallacy-of-saving-lives

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/what-is-the-point-in-being-informed

Proof of genocide:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/proof-of-genocide

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/evidence-that-covid-symptoms-came

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/a-few-more-sources-of-poisoning

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/no-need-for-any-more-vaccinations

On survival:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/imitate-an-ai

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/practical-survival-strategies-over

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Ray,

I reproduce here my post to Eric above so you see it:

"" OK, so there is no virus. Let's agree on that since it is actually the easy part. But the recurrent problem with Terrain Theory (TT) is explaining to Germ Theory (GT) what caused the initial outbreaks and the initial deaths in Wuhan, Milan and Iran? Germ theorists did not invent those outbreaks out of thin air, and they deserve an answer.

What then caused these disease outbreaks and deaths to propagate worldwide? This is the Achilles heel of TT - they don't have a model for infectivity and disease transmission. Perhaps you can provide links or references? Thanks ""

Can you help? Thanks

Marc Mullie MD

Montreal

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Yes, Marc, that has always been the Achilles' heel of the scam: what has been causing the symptoms, if there is no virus? The symptoms are undeniable, but there is no credible virus and no credible test. The symptoms are obviously from multiple sources (just like the batches of the lethal injections must have been computer-generated and even people working for the manufacturers have no idea what's in the vials).

In Wuhan and Northern Italy, the symptoms proliferated after massive 5G installations. In the UK, installers suffered burns and many of them went on workers' comp b/o radiation sickness. Chemtrails, graphene oxide in a lot of things (e.g. in the 2019 "flu vaccine" and in dental Lidocaine in 2021), Directed Energy Weapons that can affect large areas (people cannot sleep during the same hours from coast to coast in the US, itching, headaches, tinnitus etc.), and the good old-fashioned toxins from Fluoride, Mercury, non-stick kitchenware, vegetable oils, pesticides, flame retardants et at. are omnipresent, and the impact of all these add up, contributing to the psyop that is meant to keep people in perpetual fear...

https://snooze2awaken.com/2020/04/04/the-most-important-article-on-covid-19-you-will-ever-read/

https://snooze2awaken.com/2020/04/30/21-powerful-facts-that-demolish-the-official-covid-19-narrative/

https://snooze2awaken.com/2020/06/19/more-truth-pills-to-cure-the-germ-theory-blind-spot/#comments

In general, according to Terrain Theory (that has infinitely more explanatory power than Germ Theory does), illnesses is caused by poisoning, deficiency, and resonance. Stress can be added. I can also imagine that it might be possible that certain toxins can accumulate to the point that the resulting exosomes can also cause poisoning, when coming from multiple sources.

As Germ Theory has zero evidence to back itself up, its representative do not deserve any explanation.

However, if you ask for specifics about a concrete problem, I might be able to find appropriate resources.

In the meanwhile, let me invite you for a discussion regarding where real doctors could possibly go from here:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/a-universal-theory-of-diseases

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Ray, thanks for the reply!

Marc

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Eric,

Anything of significance in USA 6th house from your perspective or Pluto return influence… events would seem so.

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I'll check that soon when I read the USA chart for my late-august article

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To add to what you have addressed here, we also have the boomer generation that is finding themselves in the position of needing more meds, medical care and body parts replaced, while at the same time many boomers are retiring from health care. More patients, fewer health care providers. An unfortunate perfect storm.

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Well, they have pains here and pains there and diabetes and high blood pressure, etc.

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"And if there was a viral cause, that means sickness and death should be consistent nation-to-nation and state-to-state."

Why would that be?

I would expect results to depend on the graph connectivity and density of a population, not to mention the health distribution and perhaps wealth patterns. What model would suggest total uniformity?

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I agree. That claim is a jarring note. I would turn it around & say it would be remarkable to see cliff edged, jurisdictionally limited outbreaks, especially where the environment & factors such as you list are absent.

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Eric,

OK, so there is no virus. Let's agree on that since it is actually the easy part. But the recurrent problem with Terrain Theory (TT) is explaining to Germ Theory (GT) what caused the initial outbreaks and the initial deaths in Wuhan, Milan and Iran? Germ theorists did not invent those outbreaks out of thin air, and they deserve an answer.

What then caused these disease outbreaks and deaths to propagate worldwide? This is the Achilles heel of TT - they don't have a model for infectivity and disease transmission. Perhaps you can provide links or references? Thanks

Marc Mullie MD

Montreal

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Aug 7, 2022·edited Aug 7, 2022Author

Marc

First, from an investigative standpoint, they are two different matters. If Person A is charged with a crime and exculpatory evidence is produced and the charges are dropped, that does not solve the crime. It merely exonerates someone incorrectly charged with the crime.

And that is where we are when we reckon with the fact that nowhere a virus was claimed to exist that was made by slicing up of actual live wild virion, as you would do with a daffodil. They are all **metagenomic transcripts** made using clade exclusion, gene alignment and other techniques. The result was in silico sequences that were then used to prime the PCR.

Second, since you mention the initial deaths in Wuhan, I have a question. Without referring to my chronology or the historic data, how many deaths from the alleged virus was China claiming on the day that it locked down Wuhan, population circa 10m, on Jan 23, 2020?

We can take it from there.

efc

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Eric,

I understand all that but you have evaded the question. There was an outbreak in Wuhan (lots of disease and we can argue about number of deaths) and the same in Milan (many recorded deaths). There was also an outbreak in Iran, near simultaneous to Milan, with several deaths in the Iranian parliament. So there was 'infectivity' as in a 'disease causing agent' possibly a toxin or a new bioweapon. The transmission mechanism is another story and is the unknown, because you need a replication mechanism to transmit (even prions do this). TT sidesteps a transmission mechanism which is the key element - it has no model for it.

My personal theory is that the mRNA was a synthetic bioweapon, coated with something to aerosolize it initially, (airplanes, closed rooms). This mRNA was engineered to penetrate mammalian cells and produce spike proteins (SP). If they can coat mRNA with LNPs to penetrate cells in vivo, they can surely find a way to aerosolize it 'ab externo'. This is why the disease initially was overwhelmingly pulmonary. This got the 'replication' mechanism going, because those infected with synthetic mRNA (not a virus) became SP replicators. Transmission (before jabs) then largely occurred via shedding of both mRNA and SP molecules. The jabs of course amplified all this as a multi-organ disease, not pulmonary.

This, of course is a theoretic model with no proof. But at least it is a hypothetic model. TT needs to come up with a transmission model to explain propagation of disease in Covid 19, without which GT advocates will not be easily convinced. I have searched high and low within the TT proponents and can't find such models. Perhaps you know of one and can reference it, that would be appreciated. That was the original purpose of my post.

thanks

Marc Mullie Md

Montreal

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Marc, I am asking about the outbreak in Wuhan. How many dead bodies were there on the day that CCP shut down the city? Take a guess.

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Eric, you ask about deaths in Wuhan, I ask about transmission.

So, Wuhan: 60? 600? 6000? 60,000? do you yourself really know or think you know, knowing the CCP? Clearly, even if there are only 60, there was most likely a transmission model, based on our experience in the West. If there was not and it was not a 'communicable disease', and 'transmission' is a pointless question, the Wuhan experience seems totally unrelated to that of the West. Again I am not talking about a 'virus', merely an 'agent of infectivity and replication'.

Rhetorically I can ask the same question; how many deaths in Milan? How many in Iran, How many in the whole world, even if you divide by 100? (if not more in light of the hoax). But that is not the point, nor the purpose of my original post.

Now your turn: do you have a guess , as I have proposed as a 'guesstimate' for a transmission model in covid 19? Please stop evading the question and engage me, I am not a Germ Theorist, I am an MD searching for answers on the basis of TT. If you have no models for the transmission of covid 19, or don't know of one, or just think it is not a communicable disease, please just say so and explain your rationale.

Sincerely,

Marc

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Eric is challenging whether what we were told was in fact accurate or total lies.

I’m with the latter.

Also, lots of people are ill at any time, especially in aging communities.

It’s important to carefully examine everything we’re told officially because they’ve definitely lied solidly about this since early 2020.

Unless there’s independent corroboration I down weight such official communications in my overall thinking.

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Mike,

Thanks for engaging, and thanks for all the brave work you have done for this community.

A great deal has changed in my thinking since Aug 7th, exactly 2 months ago.

I have been investigating the issue of what is causing all the death and disease in this ongoing genocide. I have come to the conclusion that these jabs are a direct chemical poisoning, and not a biochemical one via spike proteins (SP). The mRNA - SP model is very likely wrong and merely a subterfuge/ Trojan Horse.

It appears there is no mRNA in most jabs: among MANY links we have. Some vials appear to have mRNA, but it is likely completely 'non-functional', a subterfuge:

https://pseudoscience.substack.com/p/independent-researchers-find-no-mrna

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/want-to-know-whats-inside-the-vaccine

https://pseudoscience.substack.com/p/whats-in-the-jabs-and-whats-not

But there is plenty of graphene and other heavy metals:

https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/uk-forensic-report-finds-graphene?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

https://pseudoscience.substack.com/p/whats-in-the-jabs-and-whats-not

If the foregoing is the case, we have all been led down the wrong rabbit hole of the 'mRNA - SP' thesis, when in fact this is a global CHEMICAL, not BIOchemical poisoning. Chemical toxicity could explain both immediate, short term and long term effects.

Graphene is likely the main culprit here, a bioelectric material. If so, massive interference with the 2 main electrical organs of our body (heart and brain) could explain the pattern in the acute 'act of dying' in some of the jabbed.

This would explain the weird death pattern of people just dropping dead by falling flat on their faces from a perfectly vertical position - massive, sudden, full cardiac electrical stoppage (asystole). I have seen my share of cardiac arrests in my medical training but not this pattern. The other pattern is prolonged and severe Grand Mal seizure from disrupted electrical signals in the brain. These are not blood clots, they are electrical events likely from an electro-magnetic poisoning.

I never believed any of this until I started questioning our very assumptions about what is, and is not, in the jab, other than what Big Pharma tells us. How many of you have always 'ASSUMED' there is functional mRNA in the jab, or any mRNA at all? Do you have any proof except Big Pharma claiming there is in their 'proprietary' information? What if we have been lied to about even THAT? What if spike proteins found in post-mortem tissues are a toxic EFFECT of, not the CAUSE of, a purely chemical poisoning?

Chronic toxicity could very well be chemical, and the reason they need repeated boosters to achieve the MLD (median lethal dose).

We must all keep an open mind at this point in finding the true aetiology of this poisoning, the predominant mRNA-SP model is far from proven.

In Part 2, next, I will outline a speculative eugenics agenda.

Marc Mullie MD

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Aug 3, 2022·edited Aug 3, 2022

They need to study what is real and cytotoxic in our environment more instead of deflecting away and exponentially hyping the viral contagion theories. We may never know for sure in our current mindset. The EMF and illness connection https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8580522/pdf/jclintranslres-2021-7-5-666.pdf

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Excellent analysis! Thank you for the calm and reasonable explanation. This is a very important subject and it needs those of us who wish it explored in-depth to remain polite and respectful.

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Even if we know why the jabbed are dying, we do still have to work out what un-jabbed people are dying from. We matter.

https://christinekent.substack.com/p/the-vagus-nerve-and-the-bug

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Nope nope and nope!!!

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