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William replying here

dominated by the male "gender"? Well, maybe they can make up for the dismal performance of the U.S. Secret Service agent who leaned over and exposed the de facto president to direct line of fire. And speaking of fire, we could use some help with these wildfires, and also maintaining the power grid. And honey, would you please lend a hand down in that coal mine? You're such a dear. I'll take care of dinner, the laundry and getting the kids to bed. Your favorite meal will be ready if and when you get home.

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Sunday NY Times: Loveable Movie Robots are Coming to Charm Your Children

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/27/magazine/the-wild-robot-dreams.html

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The 2014 film "Ex Machina" has a chilling twist in its tail that cautions against having empathy for machines and deluding oneself that that empathy is reciprocated.

"Humans" is a brilliant TV series that draws the viewer into empathy for the machines. Chilling in itself because I found myself rooting for them.

Empathy is innate in our humanity. Is it meet to have feelings for machines?

Such is the artifice of the artificial.

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So do you think it’s the effects of digital that make such things as a toxicity scale for men and the 4B movement viable as opposed to utterly ridiculous?

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Well, they made #metoo viable, and not just because twitter and facebook were used. They were viable because disembodied people don't know who they are, and they try to find out by attacking others. But the technology helps. Meanwhile, many women have been on sex strike since the 1990s, far as i can tell. As for the toxicity scale, I think that is mere rationalization of what already exists. Once you have "toxic masculinity" described as men cooking dinner (as in the Superbowl ad, guys standing at the BBQ), you know that the concept is universal. The real definition of "toxic masculinity" is "anything a man does that annoys me." Yeah it may catch on — though I do think that this idea needs to be engaged and exposed (using the power of digital). The environment has become really REALLY overheated and when that happens, it will start to reverse. If lifting weights is evidence of toxic masculinity, then a lot of women are implicated. You brute!

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Eric, you’re spot on with the comment ‘anything a man does that annoys me’. We have to go back to the basics of relating if we can.

By the way, I read Sex for one a few years ago after I started listening to PWFW in 2014. I read The Joy of Sex as a teenager as mum had thoughtfully purchased a copy and left it in our study.

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replying in a separate thread as I cannot respond in the original

and we would really need to see, first, how those "radical feminists" treat men. Much of the tormented logic of "feminism" is being used to push trans. And for many feminists, trans serves their emasculating agenda, and fulfills their fantasy of chopping off the penis.

As for misogyny among the poor, I want to hear from them. This reminds me of the racial analysis trumping the class analysis, one at the expense of the other. Who says this is about sex? A great many poor people work hard regardless of their sex, and they take what they can get. I am open to evidence of misogyny among the poor...but by whom? Life is tough on this planet for everyone.

I reject the analysis of conditions by sex until I can be shown that it has validity. The trick to this point of view is that it's presumed true, period, done deal, anyone who questions it is a mortal enemy. That is precisely the logic of trans politics.

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I think this is a response to me. The article i posted does NOT push anti-male hatred, it's about the corporate sponsorship and transhumanist agenda of "Trans."

Not sure who claimed misogyny among the poor.

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I listened during my trip home from snowy VT late afternoon on Saturday . The timing was perfect cause it takes about 3 1/2 hours to make the journey. Thank you for a great ride!

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Don’t forget the Pepsi and Mentos.

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haha....keep doing that!

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Or from National Lampoon’s Bored of the Rings, Pepsi and Moxie.

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Correction: Harvard Lampoon.

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My 1975 edition of the OED has gender only defined as a grammatical classification.

I have the OED downloaded on my phone. It gets updated to keep up with newspeak. Now we have definition 1. "The male sex or the female sex."

It does qualify, "... with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological..."

But goes on to examples of usage:

"the singer has opted to keep the names and genders of her children private."

And: "encouraging women and girls to join fields traditionally dominated by the male gender."

Both of which suggest to me a biological definition. AND sneaking in the suggestion of male domination.

Are the forebears of this British institution turning in their graves?

Or are they woke to groove?

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...woke to the groove

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Bill your charts and journal will be on their way Monday

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They have safely arrived, thankyou! Just as we go through the Capricorn solstice no less.

And what a splendid package with intriguing and amusing extras. I very much look forward to studying into the charts. I'm yet to purchase me an ephemeris.

Also thanks for the sexy journal, with decent pens that feel good to write with, even.

You rock the stars, Eric ❣️

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Speaking of book my parents also had a copy of The Games People Play in that same study!

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I was deeply influenced by the 1st edition of The Joy of Sex left where I could find it by my mother; also The Hite Report totally opened my mind and got me into appreciating the sexual versatility and power of women like few other things.

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Oh gosh I forgot the Hite report that was there for me too!

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I think i may have posted this one on this page before, regarding a PR firm being behind the "transgender" surge, from four years ago. This is indeed about disembodying us.

https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/16/can-we-talk-about-jk-rowling/

"Non-medical therapies such as exploring the underlying causes and conditions of these young people’s distress and also ‘watching and waiting’ (that is, holding off on irreversible and invasive treatments until the youth have finished adolescence) were the mainstay for children and adolescents until relatively recently. This is because the majority with gender dysphoria shed these symptoms without intervention as they pass through puberty.

But this non-invasive approach is increasingly viewed as unethical and transphobic. In fact there are moves in countries such as the UK and Canada to render it criminal; these moves conflate talk therapy for gender identity with conversion therapy for sexual orientation. And academics or others who question the medical approach and other aspects of the TRA narrative often have their work retracted or significantly altered by scientific journals’ editors.

The medical approach is recommended by the powerful World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH). WPATH’s Standards of Care (SOC) for people who are transsexual, transgender or gender non-conforming, published in 2011, is widely used in the UK, Europe, North America and elsewhere.

WPATH’s SOC is funded by “an anonymous donor” and by the Tawani Foundation. The foundation was created by Jennifer Pritzker, a trans woman. She and other members of her very deep-pocketed and politically-connected family own Squadron Capital, which controls several medical-company-financing and medical-device firms.

Following the money is always instructive. The very rapidly rising rate of medical transitioning – greatly boosted by the controversial new phenomenon of rapid-onset gender dysphoria — means there’s a ballooning market for hormone prescriptions, surgeries and fertility treatments for youth, who become permanent medical patients.

The SOC uses language of equality, tolerance and human rights, making the underlying medicalization of puberty highly palatable."

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as soon as they get into misogyny and women's rights in the WEST -- not the EAST -- you know they are pumping viewpoint. Women in the WEST have never been more privileged.

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Depends upon their social class, the vast majority are working class and marginalized poor. You're speaking of professional women. And in fact the article brings up the matter of TERF and how there are radical feminists who oppose the "transgender" push.

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see above for reply

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That's what i responded to, not sure how it was related to the item i posted, which wasn't about misogyny and women's rights.

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Listening to the description of the "toxic masculinity" scale and survey, i felt like i was really tripping. Oh, never mind. :-) I lift weights daily, i enjoyed having sex with an older woman to start (me 23, her 39), .i don't think monogamy is absolutely the only way to go, i don't think there are more than 2 sexes,........ i must be highly toxic.

Perfect call, "transgender" is about "transsexual," getting us as a society to accept sex as if it's just a social construct, as if a 12 year old can decide "they" are in the wrong body. Paving the way for transhumanism. Indeed a corporate PR campaign working off the fact that lots of people are being affected by endocrine disruptors, thrown into confusion. Get ready for dialing up your sex daily, you just need an app.

Great story about the woodworking shop. All in all, a very interesting evening, after hiking the Berkeley hills, visiting the Buffalo War Memorial Auditorium back on 11/9/79(Gotta love the 7, 9, 11 rhyme here) and then Berkeley Community Theater, a mile from where i'm typing this, 11/3/8, and then ... all this.

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