Listened now to the rest of the program, which goes up to the second part of the KG interview, a bit confusing to say that's the full program, but easy to figure out. Part 1 was a major trip into nostalgia for me, fits given we in the SF Bay Area have been weather like early November in New York, at least the City, i.e low around 40, hi…
Listened now to the rest of the program, which goes up to the second part of the KG interview, a bit confusing to say that's the full program, but easy to figure out. Part 1 was a major trip into nostalgia for me, fits given we in the SF Bay Area have been weather like early November in New York, at least the City, i.e low around 40, high 55-60. My family used to go to Long Island frequently as a Sunday drive destination, early and mid '60s, went there a few times even in the late '60s. Went to Montauk Point, and once to Orient Point, its counter on the north coast. I had to look up Gardiner's Island. Lots of smaller islands and barrier reefs called "islands" all around Long Island.
There are several Long Islands. One is the physical island itself, which includes the bulk of the New York boroughs of Queens and Brooklyn, though people usually don't think of them as such. Another is the sociological/political....., which limits the term to Nassau and Suffolk Counties, which in fact include these other islands and "islands." I remember encountering farms as close to the New York city line as Smithtown, by the Nassau/Suffolk county line, in 1960. Every year, we used to see suburbia expand further and further east. Loved having Jones Beach as a clean alternative to Coney Island or even Rockaway Beach, definitely more than Orchard Beach in The Bronx, and also not as far as the Jersey shore.
Speaking of The Bronx, Robert Moses, whom you talked of re Fire Island, did a huge amount of damage to the borough by pushing through the Cross Bronx Expressway, totally undermining the neighborhoods along the route, which were already facing demographic change problems, setting the way for what became the phenomenon known as the "South Bronx," which took over the large majority of the borough. I witnessed it first hand, going to high school in The Bronx and going through it quite often during the '60s. It was appalling.
Loved hearing Karl talk about the nuke industry, having worked for it my first 15 months after college graduation, my only blatantly corporate job, though UC Berkeley, where i worked 1973-2009, increasingly became little more than a corporate enclave by 2000. In fact, in 2005 UC and Bechtel, my old employer, became partners in managing the nuclear weapons labs, Los Alamos and Lawrence Livermore.
Listened now to the rest of the program, which goes up to the second part of the KG interview, a bit confusing to say that's the full program, but easy to figure out. Part 1 was a major trip into nostalgia for me, fits given we in the SF Bay Area have been weather like early November in New York, at least the City, i.e low around 40, high 55-60. My family used to go to Long Island frequently as a Sunday drive destination, early and mid '60s, went there a few times even in the late '60s. Went to Montauk Point, and once to Orient Point, its counter on the north coast. I had to look up Gardiner's Island. Lots of smaller islands and barrier reefs called "islands" all around Long Island.
There are several Long Islands. One is the physical island itself, which includes the bulk of the New York boroughs of Queens and Brooklyn, though people usually don't think of them as such. Another is the sociological/political....., which limits the term to Nassau and Suffolk Counties, which in fact include these other islands and "islands." I remember encountering farms as close to the New York city line as Smithtown, by the Nassau/Suffolk county line, in 1960. Every year, we used to see suburbia expand further and further east. Loved having Jones Beach as a clean alternative to Coney Island or even Rockaway Beach, definitely more than Orchard Beach in The Bronx, and also not as far as the Jersey shore.
Speaking of The Bronx, Robert Moses, whom you talked of re Fire Island, did a huge amount of damage to the borough by pushing through the Cross Bronx Expressway, totally undermining the neighborhoods along the route, which were already facing demographic change problems, setting the way for what became the phenomenon known as the "South Bronx," which took over the large majority of the borough. I witnessed it first hand, going to high school in The Bronx and going through it quite often during the '60s. It was appalling.
Loved hearing Karl talk about the nuke industry, having worked for it my first 15 months after college graduation, my only blatantly corporate job, though UC Berkeley, where i worked 1973-2009, increasingly became little more than a corporate enclave by 2000. In fact, in 2005 UC and Bechtel, my old employer, became partners in managing the nuclear weapons labs, Los Alamos and Lawrence Livermore.
I can't post a five hour file...I mean I can but it's just long...so I left Part 2 on its own player...
Totally cool, my confusion was very temporary. :-)