What this is about: interview with FOI grand master Christine Massey and investigative reporter Michael Bryant
I have a new edition of Planet Waves FM planned for tonight. My guests will be Freedom of Information Law grand master Christine Massey, and investigative journalist Michael Bryant.
Note to Readers — This mailing is from Chiron Return, which publishes the Planet Waves FM program as well as supporting the nonprofit investigative team. — efc
The interview is posted to its page on Planet Waves FM. The program will also include commentary about the internet and the jurisdiction of the United States, and further thoughts on sexual healing and Vesta conjunct Nessus. The full program usually posts well ahead of its scheduled 10 pm Eastern Time. Here is the video of the interview.
Dear Friend and Listener:
Good afternoon. Thanks for opening this email! I appreciate when you do.
Tonight I have a new edition of Planet Waves FM planned for you. My guests are Christine Massey, who leads the virus FOI project, and Michael Bryant, one of the most articulate writers I’ve ever read.
The program usually posts before its 10 pm EST scheduled time. I will be following up on my coverage from the past week, which has focused on the organization Children’s Health Defense (CHD) and what it is concealing from its supporters.
The main problem: They are not reporting the well-established fact, known to them personally, that all of the governments and health agencies in the world openly admit to having no samples of SARS-CoV-2 taken from a human patient. These agencies are the same ones who claim not only that it exists, and that we must remake our lives on account of it.
They are the same entities who imposed “vaccine” mandates and set up quarantine camps for a virus they have no record of. All they have are theoretical, hypothetical, AI models of something never shown to match a virus, to come from one or to cause any disease — models which are as real as a the “bullets” flying around in a computer game. (Note, we began reporting these facts in the late summer of 2020 upon discovery of the CDC’s admission.)
Pretending the Controversy Does Not Exist
Rather than telling people about this situation, CHD conceals even that the controversy or mere question exists — while the lawyers who run the organization pretend to not understand it, as recently as Wednesday.
But lawyers really do understand the meaning of what is known in law as an admission against interest: essentially, when your opponent confesses to the crime.
These findings are the result of an ongoing, so-far 10-month investigation by the Chiron Return team, including much direct contact and correspondence with CHD’s leaders. As part of this, I provided for CHD’s leadership my early history of “covid” and how the early cases were created — and all of my supporting documents. I personally handed my chronology to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and CHD’s president Mary Hudson in person, explaining its legal relevance.
In its capacity of someone suppressing facts and viewpoints it does not like, CHD is acting not as a “truth” and “freedom” advocate, but rather as a gatekeeper or a public relations firm concealing the crimes of the United States government — and those of every other government who has responded to the FOI request for proof of the virus.
Read my account of my first 1,000 days covering the “covid” story
Total Recall in the Time of Mental Anarchy
This is the kind of posturing you would expect from the CDC or The New York Times. It is the kind of filtering you would expect from FBI-controlled Twitter or CDC-controlled Facebook and Instagram.
There is an underlying problem to this whole matter.
Here in the digital age, we act like nothing can be known for sure. We live in a time when the main property of the mental environment is total anarchy and a million viewpoints, and anyone posting a video is right if I agree with it, or if it sounds good.
While computers held the promise of “perfect memory — total and exact” in one analysis (conducted more than 40 years ago) by Marshall McLuhan and his associates, he did not foresee how that perfect memory would include the insanity that is the modern internet.
Total recall includes the works of publicists, advertisers and scam artists, and everyone trying to make a name for themselves. Perfect bullshit is often enshrined as “truth,” and falsely claimed to be the word of the holy, or simply assumed correct.
Elsewhere, McLuhan accounted for this effect of reversal: when a medium gets so overheated, its role flips. It is now due to flip back in the direction of integrity, though this will require the awareness and discretion of everyone to actually happen.
What the CHD Story is About
For the first two years of the crisis, we at Planet Waves/Chiron Return mostly tracked the claims of the government, working in particular to figure out what was happening with the “covid” PCR test. It took a lot of effort and endless interviews and reviewing a mountain of documents to find our way to reliable, qualified sources who could help with this project.
During this time, we also scrutinized the witnesses called by various “truth” and “freedom” organizations, but our real aim was to figure out whether what the government was saying was true.
This was happening in the era of radical censorship: of extreme gatekeeping by the corporate media, and social media sculpting the public conversation (now known to have been supervised by the FBI), systematically deleting accounts and punishing people with certain points of view, and concealing well-known basic facts.
This alone should have been enough to get anyone’s attention; but many were made “comfortable” by the filtration of inconvenient truths and the punishment of “conspiracists.” The result was a nice, simple narrative that ended with a needle in your arm and a perfect life.
Investigating the “Truthers”
During the first stage of “covid” in 2020 and 2021, described above, being a “covid truther” became a meme, and it still is. Every day, I get numerous emails and Substacks from people claiming to tell me the brave, uncensored truth. Most of these posts are full of holes, lack any understanding of history, and are laced with confusion and even with outright lies and omissions.
During the second stage of the investigation, starting in late 2021, we began to scrutinize the claims of “covid truthers” and found that many of them were not only inaccurate and incorrect, but also driven by various agendas.
We have had to learn to sort out controlled opposition from fundraising efforts from the ego trip of 15 minutes of world fame.
Last summer, I exposed not only that someone falsely asserting that she had two Ph.D.s — in virology and immunology — was making the rounds on the ever-larger podcast circuit but also that nobody was vetting her credentials or the ridiculous things she was saying.
They just put her on the air — vouching for her! With not one glance at her background, or overlooking the fact that her bio did not exist and her Linked-In said she was trained not in virology but in banking. We published that report two days after she was personally invited to testify before the Corona Investigative Committee by fraud attorney Reiner Fuellmich. She fooled him too. How far does this go?
‘Deep Disorientation of Intellect’: We Must Learn Discernment
We all understand that we live in an atmosphere of intellectual and emotional anarchy. As Marshall’s son and collaborator Eric McLuhan wrote,
“The body is everywhere assaulted by all of our new media, a state which has resulted in deep disorientation of intellect and destabilization of culture throughout the world. In the age of disembodied communication, the meaning and significance and experience of the body is utterly transformed and distorted."
Living in the midst of this “deep disorientation” is hard and often unpleasant work. It is much easier to believe what is convenient, and to decide in advance who the good guys are and believe what they say. One would think we didn’t learn anything from simply believing Tony Fauci.
Investigative journalism, done legitimately, does not presume the outcome of the investigation at the beginning. Real inquiries can lead to disturbing, unbelievable and enraging discoveries. I personally do not like the results of what I learn in my investigations. I wish they were not true; that people and companies did not act like that; that there is so little good faith when it comes to what people tell the public.
I am even more disturbed by the willingness of most people to believe what is convenient and disregard what challenges them or what they think will make them unpopular.
Do Not Believe Me, or Anyone Else
In my own work, I never ask you to simply believe me. I provide my sources. I correspond with my readers and listeners — and answer your questions. If you want to speak with me, I will get on the phone. You should expect me to. Over and over again, I urge my readers to ask the essential questions of real fact-checking: Where is your data? And How do you know that?
Remember: we must do this in an environment of “deep disorientation of intellect” — the ability to think — and “destabilization of culture throughout the world” — meaning our ability to recognize and understand things together. We are asking questions about the claim of a disease in a time when “the meaning and significance and experience of the body is utterly transformed and distorted.”
We must get a grip. We must help one another. We need a lot more question marks on our sentences. Are you with me on this issue?
I’ll catch you later or over the weekend — thanks for joining me.
And thank you for your outpouring of support. This is difficult territory, and I would not want to be here alone.
Here are my notes, which i sent out to recipients of my email newsletter, and posted on my FB page. Time marks are approximate. The segment, by itself is just over 90 minutes long. Please do NOT take these notes as some sort of shorthand for the entire contents of the segment, you need to fill in the details yourselves by listening or watching. To me, a key crucial point made here is that CHD is not merely practicing omission of important information, but continuing to outright parrot the core of the official narrative (vs specific countermeasures) after knowing there is no evidence backing it up.
15:00 - Children’s Health Defense (CHD) has an interest in maintaining the core of the official narrative, namely that there is/has been a “pandemic” going on in the world, that it is characterized by a unique disease called “COVID,” and that this disease is caused by a unique virus, SARS-CoV-2. A It has pushed this core narrative for 3 years, and would be in an odd position if it were to admit that there is no evidence behind it. B. This narrative is a safe pitch to its donor base, which provides CHD with lots of money. This is not simply a matter of CHD failing to cover certain matters, but of it parroting the core of the official narrative.
CHD has the documents which prove this core lacks any evidence to back it up. This narrative is what is enabling the on-going implementation of a blatant biosecurity police state order, tied to central bank digital currency and in the relatively near future complete control over our comings and goings and anything we do which involves money..
21:00 - Any excess deaths have been limited to certain continents, certain nations, certain US states (only 16 of them), and certain pars of certain states, e.g. New York City and not the outer suburbs 1-2 hours up the Hudson Valley, in spite of many people making the commute. They started after the implementation of countermeasures, and are the result of them, not of some “virus."
24:00 - Deaths patterns offer no basis to back up the idea that a “virus” is responsible.
35:00 - CHD is putting forth the same narrative as Tony Fauci, CDC,…. , namely the core narrative, aside from specific countermeasures such as injections. This basic channeling of the core, while disagreeing with the countermeasures, amounts to characterizing what has been happening as “negligence,” or “criminal/gross negligence,” vs “the result of intentional action.” It’s “a mismanaged pandemic” vs "fraud, tyranny and mass murder.”
45:00 - A discussion of Denis Rancourt’s work which shreds the notion of excess deaths (before the shots) and hence demolishes the basis of any assertion that there has been a “pandemic.”
48:00 - CHD’s science adviser J.J. Couey has asserted that basically Christine Massey’s FOI requests is all that she and her colleagues in the “no proof of virus,…” camp have. This is essentially wrong, completely overlooks a VAST body of work, the result of research by a whole bunch of people, including Coppolino and Bryant.
56:00 - Looking at the “lab release” notion, showing its complete lack of viability.
1:09:00 - Virus leapfrogged over certain nations, states, counties in New York State only 50-100 miles north of New York City. Something Rancourt pointed out, as have others, such as Coppolino, who has searched out data bases in counties all over New York State.
1:10:00 - Bryant brought up the recent interview of Rancourt by RFK Jr, which he will be writing about soon. The latter kept trying to push back against the clear evidence Rancourt presented precluding the spread of some virus as the explanation for what happened in early 2020 RFK Jr at one point claimed stuff about what happened in Italy in early 2020, only to state some 20 minutes later that he knows little about what was going on in Italy. Indeed, he stated that the really bad stuff happened in Tuscany, when in fact it happened in Lombardy, well to the north. Interesting point about how the changing nature of industry in this region, Italy’s leading industrial zone, to hi tech, has changed the pollution pattern and the nature of respiratory diseases afflicting the populace.
1:17:00 - The CHD has in fact become another layer of government, lying to us. Interactions with luminaries such as Tess Lawrie and Mark Trossi, who simply refused to engage.
In remarks before and after the interview/discussion, Coppolino brought up a bunch of profound stuff. In digital society, we have downloaded our brains into a small metal/plastic device which we carry with us. We have given up notions such as that people are responsible for their actions, that anything matters, including what we think. One cannot use the excuse that listeners/viewers/readers are too stupid to digest the big picture and understand fully what’s going on in order to lie to them. Anyone doing so is via their actions perpetuating this condition which they lament. We need to become active participants vs passive consumers of information. Ir is up to us, the audience, to hold such media outlets to account, particularly when they claim to be upholding the interests of truth.
The "disturbing, unbelievable and enraging" fact is that the West (where fake money leads to fake reality) is at the "apathy to dependence" stage:
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”
― Alexander Fraser Tytler (allegedly)