We've gone from evil weed and 20-year prison terms to buying cannabis in gas stations and smoke shops, all in about five minutes. But it seems nobody is discussing the potential impacts.
What an interesting, and important, connection you're making here between the digital realm, cannabis, and the astral world. Are you familiar with Rudolf Steiner's take on The Eighth Sphere? Kind of a lower astral realm where A.I., transhumanism, elemental beings, and Ahriman (or Satan) meet. Check these out, if you have the time and inclination. I think that Steiner dovetails very well with your P.O.V.
Marijuana, technology, gaming, energy drinks, anti-anxiety & depression medications, texting, tweeting, sleep medications, alcohol, marketing, media, consumerism, caffeine, smart phones, vaping, politics, social media...these have all become forms of self-medication, with a declining number of people knowing where their "center point" of energy even is. These things are not "bad," but because they are being used in excess, it is of critical concern. No matter what the substance or medication, if we are using something(s) every day - multiple times a day - to alter the way we feel, to alter our emotions...we need to ask ourselves...why? Moreover, we need to ask ourselves, why is it our society - has not only normalized this, but is allowing and promoting this level of self-medication, diversion, and distraction...and what it is costing us?
It’s hard not to stack up all the ways to self-numb/fly away and wonder if there was a long term plan afoot. Especially if you add fentanyl to the list. Sure, weed may arguably be at the lower end of the consciousness-altering scale but the desire to forget or enhance or need to feed a demon all share a common cause - ‘Something is missing’.
To this point, as Buddha once said, satisfying desires is like drinking saltwater. Freedom from desire - also translated as ‘contentment’ - these days is not even recognised as.... desirable. 🤣
Having stopped smoking dope in the 70s because it always ended up putting me to sleep w/ my head between the speakers, I'm guessing the Powers want people stoned because you tend to be OK w/ "whatever"; thus, they can get people to not push back about their "moves" to control us (though they may already be too late, we can only hope).
PS: Just read that Thailand is going to RE-criminalize weed to help return "civility" to society, which they say has seen a rise in drug crimes; I doubt they can put that genie back in the bottle, plus stoners don't commit crimes usually (see above), and Thailand also has a meth problem, which would be more likely the "problem."
My adult children have a friend who is now a physician and they turned to him for advice when their step-mother was diagnosed with cancer-should they or shouldn't they? He said yes. He and his wife had administered it to their dying mother and felt it eased her pain significantly. We might have a long way to go in harnessing the effects of weed but it is much safer than many pharmaceuticals that state: "And in some cases, death."
Hi Eric, this is a great conversation. I wonder if the legalisation of weed has taken away a sense of initiation and ceremony that used to surround its usage - procuring the ‘good’ stuff, careful preparation thereof, even if rolling a joint, and sharing it.
With such easy access like gummies for example, it’s just stuff.
Stuff to be consumed rather than learnt about or experienced with so that one finds one’s own preferences and limits.
When establishment interests roll out increased access to drugs, support messaging of their ubiquity and inevitability, all while simultaneously de-emphasizing coverage of any negative results, one must conclude that establishment interests are or are planning to benefit. It requires the question: who, specifically, benefits from increasing numbers of regularly/casually stoned citizens? And how and where will those benefits accrue? For what it's worth- my instinct is that it's precisely those who believe most in the benefits to consciousness of cannabis use who are being specifically, insidiously, invited to ignore what's happening behind the curtain.
Hey Eric. We grow weed for medicinal use. Outdoors, fully organic, no hybrids, no feminized seeds, the real deal. We grow both Indica (White Widow, for pain killing and stress relieve) and Sativa (Hulkberry, to get the creative juices flowing when needed). We have jars full of this stuff, yet we tend to give more of it away than we smoke. Cannabis is an amazing gift from God (the God who sent us Jesus). If we grow two plants per year, we still have too much. We don't smoke recreationally. The legalisation aspects of weed remind me very much of the Oxycontin ordeal in the US. They promote abuse, not use.
Hey Coppolino and friends! Thank you for bringing this up for discussion! I need to read through other comments and yet wanted to chime in with my first thoughts before my after work shower.
Honestly, I noticed this happening while I was otherwise waking up to the medical fraud and social conditioning during the early-ish part of the pandemic. It seems as soon as we were all in lock down all of my pals were eating gummies like crazy. I have not been a candy person for quite sometime. In my humble opinion, sugar is “the” gateway drug and gummies looked like placating adults with candy and another way of checking out of self responsibility and awareness of what is happening to our culture and society. I love the plant and have been a regular smoker for my entire adult life, but the candy deal is way weird to me. I don’t imbibe with gummies mich, and when I do I am disappointed and unimpressed. I don’t drink and haven’t for over a decade and recently tried the CBD spritzers at shows, but the motions of it are too much like drinking for me and I end up slipping into old drinking behavior that i don’t like.
Looking forward to reading the responses from others and chiming in more if it moves me to do so.
I love the way you think, efc. Probably because you are often asking the same kind of questions I ask- the ones nobody wants to talk about, really. Love you to pieces Xo-m
I drank it one time, the guy told me a whole bottle (small bottle, flavored tea) was totally OK. Made me feel debilitated, incapable of doing anything. I much prefer smoking, since i can carefully monitor the immediate effects, vs having to wait for an hour to see how much i just imbibed, ate,...
Personally, I no longer use cannabis that has been converted to THC (decarboxylated - this happens with the introduction of heat - smoking or cooking... think brownies). I now use only raw cannabis - the THCA is still intact - it has not been decarboxylated, or turned into THC. THCA does not get one high. This allows for the consumption of more of the plant to get the full benefits of the multitude of the other medical components.
I live in a town where there is a major mental health hospital and research centre. I have heard anecdotally from staff that there is an increasing number of patients, especially but not exclusively youth, being admitted many with problems linked to cannabis use. Problems can include paranoia and schizophrenia; my cousin's son is among the patients severely affected.
From a shamanic perspective, plants vibrate lower (3) than humans (5) (animals, 4). I've heard that the average human is now vibrating at 3.4, basically 'vegging out'.
It's not just plant medicines like cannabis, but also alcohol (made from plants) consumption contributing to 'altered states'. Alcohol consumption has also increased during and since the pandemonium.
I can't stand the weed in the US. I tried it for three days, and its three days later, and I still feel a hangover that's a psychological drag. In Africa, they still sell the good weed with seeds in it, just as strong imo, but natural and gone when its over. Its dirt cheap in Oregon, $3 a blunt, while in DC its $25-30, and most of it seems chemical laced and prob GMO. So there's a ton of money being made. And the Gov is involved!
CIN conducted a massive dive into Pot Legalization which turned into a big series. It involved everyone from Rothschild’s to Soros to blockchain to indie media to Canadian politicians… The globalist control of “legal” marijuana is more important to them than I initially imagined. This will be worth looking at again:
No. This is store-bought. Of course, if you have homegrown weed, it’s not likely to have this problem— lucky you! My comment was on the general commercial terrain.
/school until I got into aerobic endurance sports and decided that the two weren’t compatible (the smoke primarily) for me personally. In my late 50s and early 60s I use it (as a Pisces moon in the eighth House and Pluto in the first house person) to drown out the excess noise and energy of peoples energy around me as I’m naturally an oversensitive empath, and overthinking Gemini Sun. It really helps me to lighten up and turn out the negative thinking of my my own thoughts and others energy around me.
I am reading this article / letter and am imagining I am able to connect dots as a result in the discourse.
Eventually, to my conjecture, the legalization is in tandem with a great power shift globally. Americans are being cast as lesser humans, whiney, entitled, lazy, addicted to drugs of one kind or another and not loving their country in comparison to Chinese people in China or that come from mainland China. And this happens to work against us now with the legalization. There is a power struggle underlying the legalization that is centered in smearing us.
That is, if everyone is smoking the stuff, which I personally have for many decades, albeit without confrontation with the law, we will be either taken advantage of on a national, even global, level when the great Asian invaders take over, or be left to dust because of the real needs used against us.
I don't want to be a victim, and those that are smoking are continuously in victim roles, being prescribed cannabis for the resulting PTSD or chronic pain and whatnot. That it is legalized is good, but it is completely a 180, an about face, as you point out herein, and I believe it is an actual and literal smokescreen that will come back full circle against us if Trump wins again.
Don't know if this makes sense, but it is a mere reflection of what I am seeing.
I think e chang is on to something, although I'm not sure how deep of an ideological motivation it may be compared to Ye Olde Profit Motive...
I'd say Chinese people have long memories, but maybe it's more accurate to describe it as a societal consciousness that goes back farther than most (if not all) societies today. This has to do with China's oral traditions, but more so state education/propaganda, which frequently reminds the populace of the wrongs that China suffered under the Western powers' targeting in the Opium Wars and subsequent Gunboat Diplomacy. They are told that one day China will right those wrongs and exercise power in her own fashion. The commissioner (Lin Zexu 林則徐) that spearheaded a broad anti-opium campaign, which included personal appeals to Queen Victoria to halt the exportation of opium to China and to the Daoguang Emperor to ban its import, as well as a broad moralistic campaign among the people, is remembered in school text books and celebrated to this day. Even in Taiwan, Lin Zexu has been used in national public health campaigns against smoking (tobacco, that is). In that case, a cartoonish character named Xu Zelin 徐則林 (Lin Zexu backwards) was used as a virtual spokesperson.
The Chinese feel collectively wronged as a society and civilization, and beyond the profit motive there is surely a strain of vengefulness that seeks to make the West pay for its past bullying and exploitation of China. This could explain to some degree the undeterred flow of fentanyl into America.
There are many forces that would like to take the United States down for a myriad of reasons. A fat, drugged-up, checked-out, celebrity-fixated populace isn't doing itself and its survival any favors.
China's elites and US elites are rivals, but they are also cooperating to implement 4IR globally (4th Industrial Revolution), as are all nation states which stand for their respective elites. This has nothing to do with China taking over the US. Like "Arthur Jensen, chairman of Very Big Corporation" (Ned Beatty) said in his dressing down talk to "Howard Beale" (Peter Finch) in "Network" in 1976, "There are no nations, only multinational corporations." BTW, Cannabis has been used in China for many thousands of years, likewise everywhere in Asia. Its use has nothing to do with any sort of "degeneration."
The "much stronger today" has been argued against, very well. That is to say, good arguments have been put forth. May be more a matter of the stronger strains being available to more people. ?
Given where we have been, with people locked up for mere possession, not to speak of actually growing it and undergoing military-like raids as a result, i'll take today's situation. But of course it has to be taken in context of EVERYTHING going on, cannot be extracted from the overall rapidly deteriorating state of society. Probably better that it is available than not, i would say. I do speak out against use intended to blot out awareness (which it actually is NOT very good at doing, as it *generally* makes the person who is ingesting/inhaling..... MORE sensitive.
Also, any drug entering a mental environment is a figure-ground thing. Those environments need to be considered as indicative of the potency question irrespective of the chemical composition.
It all depended. There was loads of schwag and dirt weed. Much pot had seeds, which meant male plants were around -- which weakens it.
For potent you had to have Alcapulco Gold, Thai weed, and eventually Indica hit the scene in some quantity in the mid 80s. However, there were no 200mg synthetic THC gummies that you could purchase by the pound (to name one thing).
True, the synthetic THC industrial stuff CREEPS me out.
We had homegrown, even seedless (sinsemilla) by the mid '70s in the SF Bay Area, i knew some of the growers, i was a small one by the early '80s. There is still schwag and dirt weed around, for the unaware and for the under aged.
Hi, Eric!
What an interesting, and important, connection you're making here between the digital realm, cannabis, and the astral world. Are you familiar with Rudolf Steiner's take on The Eighth Sphere? Kind of a lower astral realm where A.I., transhumanism, elemental beings, and Ahriman (or Satan) meet. Check these out, if you have the time and inclination. I think that Steiner dovetails very well with your P.O.V.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe85zFEZIvY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vak9sv9XyBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18Ut664lFQo&t=122s
All the best,
Val
What a good friend, Val … to bring Steiner to the attention of the Planetwaves’ readership! 👍
Marijuana, technology, gaming, energy drinks, anti-anxiety & depression medications, texting, tweeting, sleep medications, alcohol, marketing, media, consumerism, caffeine, smart phones, vaping, politics, social media...these have all become forms of self-medication, with a declining number of people knowing where their "center point" of energy even is. These things are not "bad," but because they are being used in excess, it is of critical concern. No matter what the substance or medication, if we are using something(s) every day - multiple times a day - to alter the way we feel, to alter our emotions...we need to ask ourselves...why? Moreover, we need to ask ourselves, why is it our society - has not only normalized this, but is allowing and promoting this level of self-medication, diversion, and distraction...and what it is costing us?
It’s hard not to stack up all the ways to self-numb/fly away and wonder if there was a long term plan afoot. Especially if you add fentanyl to the list. Sure, weed may arguably be at the lower end of the consciousness-altering scale but the desire to forget or enhance or need to feed a demon all share a common cause - ‘Something is missing’.
To this point, as Buddha once said, satisfying desires is like drinking saltwater. Freedom from desire - also translated as ‘contentment’ - these days is not even recognised as.... desirable. 🤣
Having stopped smoking dope in the 70s because it always ended up putting me to sleep w/ my head between the speakers, I'm guessing the Powers want people stoned because you tend to be OK w/ "whatever"; thus, they can get people to not push back about their "moves" to control us (though they may already be too late, we can only hope).
PS: Just read that Thailand is going to RE-criminalize weed to help return "civility" to society, which they say has seen a rise in drug crimes; I doubt they can put that genie back in the bottle, plus stoners don't commit crimes usually (see above), and Thailand also has a meth problem, which would be more likely the "problem."
My adult children have a friend who is now a physician and they turned to him for advice when their step-mother was diagnosed with cancer-should they or shouldn't they? He said yes. He and his wife had administered it to their dying mother and felt it eased her pain significantly. We might have a long way to go in harnessing the effects of weed but it is much safer than many pharmaceuticals that state: "And in some cases, death."
Hi Eric, this is a great conversation. I wonder if the legalisation of weed has taken away a sense of initiation and ceremony that used to surround its usage - procuring the ‘good’ stuff, careful preparation thereof, even if rolling a joint, and sharing it.
With such easy access like gummies for example, it’s just stuff.
Stuff to be consumed rather than learnt about or experienced with so that one finds one’s own preferences and limits.
When establishment interests roll out increased access to drugs, support messaging of their ubiquity and inevitability, all while simultaneously de-emphasizing coverage of any negative results, one must conclude that establishment interests are or are planning to benefit. It requires the question: who, specifically, benefits from increasing numbers of regularly/casually stoned citizens? And how and where will those benefits accrue? For what it's worth- my instinct is that it's precisely those who believe most in the benefits to consciousness of cannabis use who are being specifically, insidiously, invited to ignore what's happening behind the curtain.
Hey Eric. We grow weed for medicinal use. Outdoors, fully organic, no hybrids, no feminized seeds, the real deal. We grow both Indica (White Widow, for pain killing and stress relieve) and Sativa (Hulkberry, to get the creative juices flowing when needed). We have jars full of this stuff, yet we tend to give more of it away than we smoke. Cannabis is an amazing gift from God (the God who sent us Jesus). If we grow two plants per year, we still have too much. We don't smoke recreationally. The legalisation aspects of weed remind me very much of the Oxycontin ordeal in the US. They promote abuse, not use.
A negative consequence is cannabis will be increasingly industrialized.
A positive consequence is the population of so many traumatized will enjoy the therapeutic potential.
A mixed bag, eh?
Hey Coppolino and friends! Thank you for bringing this up for discussion! I need to read through other comments and yet wanted to chime in with my first thoughts before my after work shower.
Honestly, I noticed this happening while I was otherwise waking up to the medical fraud and social conditioning during the early-ish part of the pandemic. It seems as soon as we were all in lock down all of my pals were eating gummies like crazy. I have not been a candy person for quite sometime. In my humble opinion, sugar is “the” gateway drug and gummies looked like placating adults with candy and another way of checking out of self responsibility and awareness of what is happening to our culture and society. I love the plant and have been a regular smoker for my entire adult life, but the candy deal is way weird to me. I don’t imbibe with gummies mich, and when I do I am disappointed and unimpressed. I don’t drink and haven’t for over a decade and recently tried the CBD spritzers at shows, but the motions of it are too much like drinking for me and I end up slipping into old drinking behavior that i don’t like.
Looking forward to reading the responses from others and chiming in more if it moves me to do so.
I love the way you think, efc. Probably because you are often asking the same kind of questions I ask- the ones nobody wants to talk about, really. Love you to pieces Xo-m
I drank it one time, the guy told me a whole bottle (small bottle, flavored tea) was totally OK. Made me feel debilitated, incapable of doing anything. I much prefer smoking, since i can carefully monitor the immediate effects, vs having to wait for an hour to see how much i just imbibed, ate,...
Personally, I no longer use cannabis that has been converted to THC (decarboxylated - this happens with the introduction of heat - smoking or cooking... think brownies). I now use only raw cannabis - the THCA is still intact - it has not been decarboxylated, or turned into THC. THCA does not get one high. This allows for the consumption of more of the plant to get the full benefits of the multitude of the other medical components.
I also consume it orally sometimes (homegrown) and it does seem to have a psychoactive effect, albeit mild.
I still get high (prefer smoking to cooking), but appreciate your preference.
I live in a town where there is a major mental health hospital and research centre. I have heard anecdotally from staff that there is an increasing number of patients, especially but not exclusively youth, being admitted many with problems linked to cannabis use. Problems can include paranoia and schizophrenia; my cousin's son is among the patients severely affected.
The following study corroborates increased potency and discussed the impact of legalization on youth, among other things: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2022.984485/pdf
Article about schizophrenia:
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/ed-visits-for-cannabis-use-linked-to-higher-rates-of-schizophrenia-especially-in-young-men
From a shamanic perspective, plants vibrate lower (3) than humans (5) (animals, 4). I've heard that the average human is now vibrating at 3.4, basically 'vegging out'.
It's not just plant medicines like cannabis, but also alcohol (made from plants) consumption contributing to 'altered states'. Alcohol consumption has also increased during and since the pandemonium.
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/healthy-living/infographic-examining-changes-alcohol-cannabis-consumption-stigma-covid-pandemic.html
Socrates — 'The mind is everything; what you think you become'. What if humans are losing their/our minds, no longer thinking? Who are we becoming?
Excellent quote from Socrates … it can also be posed as a question: What do you think you are becoming?
I can't stand the weed in the US. I tried it for three days, and its three days later, and I still feel a hangover that's a psychological drag. In Africa, they still sell the good weed with seeds in it, just as strong imo, but natural and gone when its over. Its dirt cheap in Oregon, $3 a blunt, while in DC its $25-30, and most of it seems chemical laced and prob GMO. So there's a ton of money being made. And the Gov is involved!
https://shawnpaulmelville.substack.com/p/cbd-legal-weed-and-graphene-quantum
CIN conducted a massive dive into Pot Legalization which turned into a big series. It involved everyone from Rothschild’s to Soros to blockchain to indie media to Canadian politicians… The globalist control of “legal” marijuana is more important to them than I initially imagined. This will be worth looking at again:
You might try Sativa as opposed
to Indica strains , which make you dopier. Different smokes for
Different folks
Do you know who grew the US weed you dislike?
I know my growers. I don’t experience hangovers.
No. This is store-bought. Of course, if you have homegrown weed, it’s not likely to have this problem— lucky you! My comment was on the general commercial terrain.
I was a pothead in junior high
/school until I got into aerobic endurance sports and decided that the two weren’t compatible (the smoke primarily) for me personally. In my late 50s and early 60s I use it (as a Pisces moon in the eighth House and Pluto in the first house person) to drown out the excess noise and energy of peoples energy around me as I’m naturally an oversensitive empath, and overthinking Gemini Sun. It really helps me to lighten up and turn out the negative thinking of my my own thoughts and others energy around me.
* I use mild edibles. About 2-3 grams of THC. A 10 gram gummie would put me on my back for 12 hours.
Was watching Jim Belushi’s show. They show various grow operations. Everything is so sterile. Like, nature is not part of it anymore.
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Dear Eric and the Planet Waves crew,
I am reading this article / letter and am imagining I am able to connect dots as a result in the discourse.
Eventually, to my conjecture, the legalization is in tandem with a great power shift globally. Americans are being cast as lesser humans, whiney, entitled, lazy, addicted to drugs of one kind or another and not loving their country in comparison to Chinese people in China or that come from mainland China. And this happens to work against us now with the legalization. There is a power struggle underlying the legalization that is centered in smearing us.
That is, if everyone is smoking the stuff, which I personally have for many decades, albeit without confrontation with the law, we will be either taken advantage of on a national, even global, level when the great Asian invaders take over, or be left to dust because of the real needs used against us.
I don't want to be a victim, and those that are smoking are continuously in victim roles, being prescribed cannabis for the resulting PTSD or chronic pain and whatnot. That it is legalized is good, but it is completely a 180, an about face, as you point out herein, and I believe it is an actual and literal smokescreen that will come back full circle against us if Trump wins again.
Don't know if this makes sense, but it is a mere reflection of what I am seeing.
regards,
e chang.
I think e chang is on to something, although I'm not sure how deep of an ideological motivation it may be compared to Ye Olde Profit Motive...
I'd say Chinese people have long memories, but maybe it's more accurate to describe it as a societal consciousness that goes back farther than most (if not all) societies today. This has to do with China's oral traditions, but more so state education/propaganda, which frequently reminds the populace of the wrongs that China suffered under the Western powers' targeting in the Opium Wars and subsequent Gunboat Diplomacy. They are told that one day China will right those wrongs and exercise power in her own fashion. The commissioner (Lin Zexu 林則徐) that spearheaded a broad anti-opium campaign, which included personal appeals to Queen Victoria to halt the exportation of opium to China and to the Daoguang Emperor to ban its import, as well as a broad moralistic campaign among the people, is remembered in school text books and celebrated to this day. Even in Taiwan, Lin Zexu has been used in national public health campaigns against smoking (tobacco, that is). In that case, a cartoonish character named Xu Zelin 徐則林 (Lin Zexu backwards) was used as a virtual spokesperson.
The Chinese feel collectively wronged as a society and civilization, and beyond the profit motive there is surely a strain of vengefulness that seeks to make the West pay for its past bullying and exploitation of China. This could explain to some degree the undeterred flow of fentanyl into America.
There are many forces that would like to take the United States down for a myriad of reasons. A fat, drugged-up, checked-out, celebrity-fixated populace isn't doing itself and its survival any favors.
China's elites and US elites are rivals, but they are also cooperating to implement 4IR globally (4th Industrial Revolution), as are all nation states which stand for their respective elites. This has nothing to do with China taking over the US. Like "Arthur Jensen, chairman of Very Big Corporation" (Ned Beatty) said in his dressing down talk to "Howard Beale" (Peter Finch) in "Network" in 1976, "There are no nations, only multinational corporations." BTW, Cannabis has been used in China for many thousands of years, likewise everywhere in Asia. Its use has nothing to do with any sort of "degeneration."
The "much stronger today" has been argued against, very well. That is to say, good arguments have been put forth. May be more a matter of the stronger strains being available to more people. ?
Given where we have been, with people locked up for mere possession, not to speak of actually growing it and undergoing military-like raids as a result, i'll take today's situation. But of course it has to be taken in context of EVERYTHING going on, cannot be extracted from the overall rapidly deteriorating state of society. Probably better that it is available than not, i would say. I do speak out against use intended to blot out awareness (which it actually is NOT very good at doing, as it *generally* makes the person who is ingesting/inhaling..... MORE sensitive.
Also, any drug entering a mental environment is a figure-ground thing. Those environments need to be considered as indicative of the potency question irrespective of the chemical composition.
It all depended. There was loads of schwag and dirt weed. Much pot had seeds, which meant male plants were around -- which weakens it.
For potent you had to have Alcapulco Gold, Thai weed, and eventually Indica hit the scene in some quantity in the mid 80s. However, there were no 200mg synthetic THC gummies that you could purchase by the pound (to name one thing).
True, the synthetic THC industrial stuff CREEPS me out.
We had homegrown, even seedless (sinsemilla) by the mid '70s in the SF Bay Area, i knew some of the growers, i was a small one by the early '80s. There is still schwag and dirt weed around, for the unaware and for the under aged.