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By the way — the other issue here is all the major presenters picking up Elsa's posts and Reiner's claims as if they are unquestionably true, with headlines like "Reiner Fuellmich is Certain He Will be Vindicated." Elsa is a public relations agency issuing press releases that the new bullshit truth press is distributing to its readers, just like in the old days.

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for those following the student issue on Sage Hana's stack, here is the letter I was referring to:

https://audio.pwfm.tech/documents/heidi-liscomb-letter.pdf

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Well here's a lot of evidence that people are much worse than they think at putting themselves in other people's shoes. There's hardly a comment here or in the interview that shows the capacity to understand how other people can think differently from they. The usual "logic" is "they are wrong about something-or-other, therefore their motivation is malign."

Coppolino is probably genuine, although he's sowing a lot of dissent and distrust in several people speaking out against the global coup. He understands, correctly, that the viral sequence only existed on paper. And yes, it's a central plank in the evidence. He doesn't yet seem to understand that for other people they have plenty of evidence, that they understand, that there's genocide e.g. going on, and they don't need more evidence (using material they would struggle with).

Yes, Fuellmich seems to have done something stupid, possibly even criminal, which has put him in prison. Does that make all his interviews invalid, or mean that people were not helped to understand what was going on?

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Feb 12·edited Feb 12

Yes, the Corona committee were gatekeepers to keep the virus narrative ALIVE.

The no virus camp was kept away and the two who were allowed to testify were as you say treated terribly, while a fraud like Poormina gets invited. It is completely bogus to me. An agenda for sure.

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What a piece of work. Kept saying how she agrees with you and going on to stating the standard gatekeeping line, "lots of people got sick with this disease," without in the least stating what the alleged *unique* symptoms were, assuming a virus was involved,... the works. (Likewise polio). Or listing all the "great people" who were interviewed, i.e. Zelenko, McCullough, Kory,... all virus pushers deluxe. And pushing the "what's important are the vaccines and that there really was no pandemic" (while RFK Jr, McCullough, Kory, Malone.... continue to say that there was). Or even broaching the lab-made theme. You did well re-parrying her attempts, Eric!

And what a pathetic excuse for stealing. "He was gonna make more money via putting it in his house and selling it." Maybe he should have gone to Vegas. :-)

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Eric you surely know the polio story and that before the vaccine it was diagnosed according to one set of symptoms and after the vaccine the dianostic symptoms were changed to look good. Also there is strong correlation and causal science between the introduction of DDT and other environmental toxins and the outbreak of polio. Elsa is well meaning but doesn't seem to grasp the fundamental issue that if viruses have never have been proved to exist, all the other stuff just falls away.....

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OMG...Reiner is an attorney and he cannot claim ignorance and say he did not know that non profit funds had to be held in an escrow account. Where is the money now? Lost? It is puzzling why anyone would do what he did with the money unless they were completely ignorant and should in no way have been given any fiduciary responsibility. So now the money has been stolen? I don't get how that happened.

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This is excellent. Elsa demonstrates so well - people just cannot imagine that all pandemics, all vaccines, all quarantines, all viral research and associated 'technologies,' and much of the global economy is build on fraud. Thank you for your body of work. Impressive.

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dunno what happened to the money but she's a raving lunatic.

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she keeps missing the point...that there is no VIRUS!!!!

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Like so many that have taken on some of these issues over the last four years, Elsa seems to have hitched her wagon to those who made a reputation early on by stepping only slightly away from the medical mainstream. Those are largely the same type of people Reiner Fuellmich interviewed. The - Ivermectin good, viruses exist and are causative but the covid pandemic is a fraud, group.

You delineated them very well Eric. At some point I'd like to hear your thoughts on why you think that division has come to be. Why has Fuellmich, CHD, RFK, McColough, the Breggins, Malone and all the others chosen to stand where they are? What do they gain? What do they lose by going further?

By the way, I had an interesting conversation with Dr. Mike Yeadon the other day. Apparently he had watched my 10/21 interview with Tom Cowan. He spoke favorably about Cowan, that he has recently been looking into the virus question, that he now sees many problems with the virus model, that he has more questions and is digging further.

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Great interview Eric

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Love the Kitty antics . . .

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This woman seems irritated by giving details and defending Reiner rather than being objective. I don't feel very sympathetic. She keeps saying "he was going to sell his home." So he says.

And we all know lawyers never lie.

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I watched the session with Lanka and Kaufman before the Corona Investigative Committee. Wodarg was hostile and Fisher was supportive of Wodarg, but Fullmich played the peacemaker and in no way dismissed the 'no virus' camp off hand. At least that is my recollection.

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This poor woman. She can't wrap her mind around the fact that there IS NO VIRUS. She can't go there.

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